My love-hate relationship with my powerball - new amp stuff, maybe

[Antag]

FWIW, I briefly plugged my E570 into my Savage 120's power section today & it was unbelievably bassy - and LOUD.

Didn't really have time to tweak, but I'm guessing I'll need to deactivate the Depth punch on the Savage & the MLP on my E570 patches, as well as turn the bass & master right down (as well as the treble & presence up) to get a sound that I can compare with my Savage sound.

Will try to plug the MJW power amp into the brutal cab next, but I thought it was insteresting how settings that sounds good through the MJW/Mesa 2x12 were bordering on unusable into the Savage 120/brutal cab - something to bear in mind when getting an E570 to use into a head's power section...

[MDV]

Hmmmmm, interesting, thanks.

Can any of the amp gurus explain this - are there problems running a pre into the power section of a head? I would have thought they were more or less interchangable, esp. from the same brand and when the pre in question is just the pre from one of their heads....

????

[Antag]

It should work - & indeed it did work.  It's just that I'd need to do a lot more tweaking to find the ideal sound.

I'm guessing it has something to do with the E570 having come from 100 watt heads that have either 6L6 or EL34 power sections, whereas the Savage 120s 120 watt 6550 power section is a different animal entirely...

[MDV]

Not a bad guess, I suppose.

I'm really interested how you get on with this, if you want to keep tweaking and see how you go.

I'm also really interested in whether your explanation is a good one and I can expect better luck with the 6l6 100W power section of the PB, if its closer to the SEs normal power amp or not.

[Antag]

Yeah, I will - was re-arranging (or rather reclaiming) my music room yesterday so not much playing time.

I used to run my Rocktron VooduValve into my Rect-o-Verb head's power section with no trouble at all.  Also, the SE sounds wonderful with the 5881-powered MJW.  I'm tempted to plug the Marshall SL-X in & try the SE through that too... :)

[dave_mc]

if you're looking at laneys, just be aware that the prices have shot up (on the ghs) by about £100 recently.

[Dmoney]

if you're looking at laneys, just be aware that the prices have shot up (on the ghs) by about £100 recently.

Really? this makes me a bit sad. They are great amps I think. Pretty underrated or overlooked especially at the price they were at! They are probably still cheap compared to similar amps though?

[Pete24v]

But they are so cheap 2nd hand, i just picked up a GH50L (big logo, silver corners) from the bay of e for £200  :D

[dave_mc]

well, i haven't tried a gh, but the laneys i have tried were good value at the old prices, certainly. they're not as good value now... still good value? probably, but knowing the prices they used to go for, and that their main appeal was value... :)

[dheim]

have you tried the "new" Fireball 100? it sounds way better than the PB i tried, in my opinion...

[MDV]

God damned GAS u-turn!

Just heard this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h43oqNdspjI&feature=player_embedded

Thats almost, very nearly, exactly what I'm talking about - its clear, its tight, and its got midzy bark and snarl.

And these arent half bad either

http://www.netmusicians.org/?section=amp&value=Mako%20Dorado

And now Mako are looking really good to me. The dorado, speciically. Anyone know anything about them (save that they advocate Ovaltine consumption).

[MDV]

Wait, I'm confused - that Mofos a Pre!

This lines up with my plans rather well.

I wonder what sort of sum they want for it + Uk shipping

Then theres tax

Oh for $%&# sake.

[Antag]

$975 is less than half the price of an Egnater M4 (OK, with "only" 4 channels it's only half the preamp :lol:), for which I was quoted $166 shipping to UK by UPS, so rounding it up to $200

So, ((((975+200)*0.66)*1.037)*1.2)= £965.30

There's also the minor detail of whether they make it in a 230V version?

[MDV]

975 USD is what the mako M4 costs?

A: How the hell did you find that out? I've been hunting, and not finding.

B: I dont know if I'm now happy about that or confused. The dorado sounds like it will do what I want, but its more or less the same expense as the E570, which I was previously for the last two days in the privacy and certainty of my own brain, set on, with it also being, as far as I can tell, a different flavour of 'near' perfect.

Mako M4
Engl E570

WUT DO?

[JDC]

just noticed, peters is doing a preamp now if that's an option