Anyone else find this deeply upsetting?

[Dr. Stein]

I am in two minds over this : one set of feelings based on protecting your name /reputation and the other on a more global issue of diminishing resources and the horrific tragedy of waste.

That's the thing, isn't it? I don't understand why they can't make it obviously a factory second and sell it at a reduced price - use "Factory Seconds" as a headstock logo and serial number if nothing else!

It's possible that this video was just a one off PR move, to show off the depth of maple (which only a couple of us noticed, so maybe not a *good* PR move) and their commitment to quality. Still, such a waste.

[FELINEGUITARS]

I am in two minds over this : one set of feelings based on protecting your name /reputation and the other on a more global issue of diminishing resources and the horrific tragedy of waste.

That's the thing, isn't it? I don't understand why they can't make it obviously a factory second and sell it at a reduced price - use "Factory Seconds" as a headstock logo and serial number if nothing else!

It's possible that this video was just a one off PR move, to show off the depth of maple (which only a couple of us noticed, so maybe not a *good* PR move) and their commitment to quality. Still, such a waste.

Gibson used to do just that - they stamped a 2 on the back of the headstock to indicate a second

Musicman also have a bonfire of seconds - to prevent those parts getting reused and damaging company reputation

I would say: cut the headstock off and give the remaining bits to a luthiery college where the body could be stripped and the rest of the neck dug out and a new neck made perhaps

The wood does look exquisite - which is why it's all the more criminal to cut it up and burn it

[Antag]

That is just plain waste, how did it make it that far if there was a problem that called for that outcome!

from they way they were looking at it they were unhappy with the finish/binding

Which just makes chopping it up all the worse.  They could have stripped the finish, even if it was a stain on that top they could have sanded it down a bit, & surely binding isn't all that difficult to remove & redo?

I could only imagine the guitar being totally unrecoverable if there was something really fundamental like the neck being misaligned by several degrees - in which case, why did it get as far as the paint room?

The only scenario I can imagine where you decide that a guitar which is so far towards completion is beyond help is if a big crack suddenly opened up in the wood or someone dropped it in the workshop...

[Dr. Stein]

^It is possible for necks to warp beyond repair sometimes, which may explain why it got that far, but they did seem to be looking at the finish.

[Dmoney]

Carvin by name, carvin' by nature

[shobet]

Carvin by name, carvin' by nature

That actually made me laugh out loud!

Someone replied to my comment on the Carvin page, but didn't really address the points I made. I can't be arsed to debate with them as it's their toy and I'm very unlikely to ever buy a Carvin anyway.

[Stevepage]

Carvin have been a bunch of idiots recently so this doesn't surprise me.

[Philly Q]

Carvin have been a bunch of idiots recently so this doesn't surprise me.

I've always liked the look of their stuff - over 30 years of ads in Guitar Player! - but  never enough to seriously consider buying one, especially since they're so difficult to get hold of.

[Dr. Stein]

Carvin have been a bunch of idiots recently so this doesn't surprise me.

I've always liked the look of their stuff - over 30 years of ads in Guitar Player! - but  never enough to seriously consider buying one, especially since they're so difficult to get hold of.

At US prices I probably would have bought several by now but over here they're just silly money. You can easily spend £2500 on one of their carved tops, which puts them well into the bespoke custom bracket price wise. (by the way Feline, did you notice they've recently ripped off your Lion's neck joint on their new LP model?  :lol: )

[HairyChris]

Hm, PRS do exactly the same thing...