Question regarding Nailbomb & Warpig Bass Tightness!

[TwilightOdyssey]

JP, I can finally help you with one part of the equation, as I played a Nailbomb the other day.

NAILBOMB vs. DUNCAN JB -- Bass Response
The only SD pup I've owned that has an output similar to the Nailbomb is the BJ ... I mean, the JB!  PDT_008

In terms of OVERALL OUTPUT LEVEL, the NB has way more low end chunk and grind. For extreme metal, I think that the Nailbomb is probably the ideal pickup. (Have never tried a Warpig, so I can't comment on it)

The NB is what I would call a 'distortion' pickup, in that it will drive your amp's preamp stage to overdrive even if it's set to be clean. There is a lot of talk about the versatiity of the NB, but I can't comment on it since I'm not a versatile player; I play metal, that's all.

Since the NB has an alnico magnet, it does retain some dynamics and headroom. The harder you play, the more output you're gonna get. However, on Wednesday, the amp was breaking up even on the clean channel. That says more about my lack of ability to play softly than about the NB, tho. I'm not a whacker, but I do have a certain amount of attack in my playing.

Is the bass tight on the NB? Sure, why not. There IS a lot of low end on the pickup, tho. Do I think that the bass is tighter than the Miracle Man? No. Do I still think that it's a better pickup for death metal? Yes.

[Ratrod]

I guess Phil should bring his Warpig equipped explorer to TO's next rehearsal.

I'd love to hear that thru that Splawn amp. :D

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UNHOILY BEN, thankīs for the input..
a last question
so.. the Nailbombīs tightness of the BASS is similar than the jb bass tightness? PLus, it has more ammount of bass right?!?!!
Hails
J.P

[tewboss]

Just my two cents, the JB I've got sounds like mud. The rest of the components are exactly the same as my guitar which has Nailbombs in it. Obviously they are different guitars - one a superstrat 80's thing which weighs a tonne (has a JB), and the other a "PRS" (ie. Korean made) which has Nailbombs. The Nailbombs are clearer and were money better spent. In terms of bass, my amp is a Marshall so it will never have the modern hi-gain dual rectifier bass sound.

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THANKS man, i already know the tonal characteristics of the duncans and iīm figuring out(not completely) the bare knuckles one.
but i want to know specifically about the amount of tightness in the bass of the nailbomb and the warpig.. how it compares to, for an example duncan or dimarzio pups same ammount of bass tightness?!
Q:)
Thankīs
J.P
NOW I HAVE THE MONEY, but need this info to complete the LONG research that will culminate in my first bkp acquisition.
Q:)
J.P

[TodayWasTHeDaY]

I just switched out a jb and yamaha neck pickup for a set of nailbombs in my yamaha aes620.  I would say they are comparable output-wise but thats where it ends.  The nailbombs are much clearer under heavy distortion but still have a really gnarly bite to them.  I would say there is a touch more bass and that it is more focused although I did play around with my amps eq a bit.  They also clean up really well with even a minor volume drop on the knob.  Harmonics are better on the bridge than the JB.  The neck is matched really well to the bridge pickup.  For the neck I can only compare to the yamaha pickup and a rio grande texas special, neither of wich I liked as much.  

Still playing with them as I just installed them a few days ago and finished exams so I'm finally logging some time on them and feeling them out.  EXTREMELY HAPPY so far.  

It sounds like warpigs are more suitable for a emg sound (but I'd say better sounding judging by my nailbombs) and probably don't sound too much like anything SD or dimarzio have to offer.
If you like old school sepultura, death metal, stoner rock and a versatile, excellent sounding pickup go for a NB or two.

[motormouth]

I still want someone(that own or owned both) to answer the questions about the nailbomb and warpig
#$%!& hails and thAnks
J.P

   Well,,,hummm.I used to use many pickups.Compared to the Jb,the war pig can totally emplode the Jb into confetty!It never gets muddy,the mids are nicely pushed,for a sweet vocal response,and the highs are like pure glass,never sounding nasal,like the JB.Did i mention how nice the harmonic structure is?I have a calibrated set in the Paul,and for fluid 32 or 64th note runs,Its GODDAM ELECTRIC!!"THROW"EM A NICKLE,TELL 'EM TO GET A JOB,BITCH!

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Ohhh excellent.

[Bob Johnson]

WFD, The first Nail Bomb, in fact the first BKP, I ever fitted to a guitar was for Chrisola.
I do all my testing of new guitars through a 1974 Traynor YGL-3 amp. The YGL-3 is famous for being clean all the way up to 10/10.
I was completely blown away by the clean overdrive crunch, articulation and TIGHT BASS response from this pickup.
You cannot define any part of this pickups ability by comparing it to any SD or Dimarzio product but if I had to; I'd say the bass is tighter and better defined than anything I've heard (and I certainly haven't heard them all) from either of the afore mentioned companies. I include JB's (or as someone more accurately said BJ's) Freds, Air Zones, Air Nortons, Breeds, Blaze, SH10's, Invaders, etc etc among those I have used.

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Ohhhhhhh Thankīs BOB
it sounds like iīl have to get 3 bkps
a set of WARPIGS and one nailbomb bridge.
J.P
iīm asking that a lot because i didnīt like the duncan distortion bass tightness, and the custom custom, nor the custom 5 bass tightness.
so.. i liked the Jb tightness. but it doesnīt have enough Bass for me.

[Pierre]

Ohhhhhhh Thankīs BOB
it sounds like iīl have to get 3 bkps
a set of WARPIGS and one nailbomb bridge.
J.P
iīm asking that a lot because i didnīt like the duncan distortion bass tightness, and the custom custom, nor the custom 5 bass tightness.
so.. i liked the Jb tightness. but it doesnīt have enough Bass for me.

Bass more present and defined than on the FullShred? I want. *adds Nailbomb to christmas list*

[Ratrod]

Whatever happened to peace on earth, the Christmas spirit? Everybody's ordering Nailbombs and Warpigs for Chistmas.

[Pierre]

And it sure looks like I shall try and trade my MM for Nailbomb too  :twisted:  :twisted:

Now of course... NB or Warpig...?

 :?:

Lots of midrange, lots of POWER and aggression, TIGHT bass... Thing is, both seem to fit the same bill!

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

And it sure looks like I shall try and trade my MM for Nailbomb too  :twisted:  :twisted:

Now of course... NB or Warpig...?

 :?:

Lots of midrange, lots of POWER and aggression, TIGHT bass... Thing is, both seem to fit the same bill!

Not really, the Miracle man is a very different pickup. It have a scooped mid range and a tighter bass, with more high end. Its a compleatly different tone.

[Pierre]

No no I meant the Warpig and NB  :D  Based on the clips I heard though, the Warpig seems fantastic, I'll try it first I think.