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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 08:19:12 AM »
People who say they hear a difference between cables. I think it's BS, I've never noticed any difference in sound between cable brands.

Even I, ham-fisted and cloth-eared as I am, can hear differences between cables.  At least I think I can.  :oops:

I have one of those old Radio Shack grey curly leads (as favoured by SRV, apparently - I just bought it because it was cheap).  I'm certain it takes a load of treble out of the sound.
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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 08:41:09 AM »
And to add; you cant eq in the differences between cables.

Poor cables cut out high end and obfuscate transients. That clarity cant be returned to the signal with the amp if the amp doesnt have it input into itto begin with.

This is based on extensive A/B testing, most recently (admitedly a couple of years ago) with cleartones Vs my previous (and it has to be noted, more expensive, so this isnt any sort of high price romanticism) planet waves.


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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 11:56:33 AM »
My absolute favourite is "more tone".

'Cause tone is quantitative, obviously.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 12:54:11 PM »
Some absolutely belting BS from cork-sniffing amp maker Alexander Dumble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 01:36:24 PM »
Boss metal zones are epic!!!

Speaking of BS I think we have to be careful of placebos and priming, if someone says an amp sounds harsh I am more likely to listen for harshness when I hear that amp.

Priming in a basic sense being external factors changing my mood and so affecting how I perceive something, like a cr@p intro song that brings down a whole album, even if the album would have been much better without the cr@p intro song.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 01:47:16 PM »
Some absolutely belting BS from cork-sniffing amp maker Alexander Dumble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw

Legendary nonsense. Amazingly, I reckon that he genuinely believes what he says.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 04:11:24 PM »
Good one!

Doubly so when they say to put an overdrive infront of the low gain crunch amp. Because thats going to turn it into a 5150.

I can see selling things you think are awesome though. Sometimes something else you want is more awesome to you or you need the money for whatever reason. But you did ask why ;)

haha, yeah :lol:

And yeah, I'm not saying if you're selling something it has to be rubbish, maybe it just doesn't suit you or whatever, that's fair enough. I'm talking about the people, on ebay say, who completely rip the ass out of it with ridiculous compliments which just can't be true. :lol:

I can hear differences between cables too, certainly between cheaper ones and better ones.

LOL at the fragile harmonics link :lol:

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 04:36:37 PM »
Dunno, dont use ebay.

But I have sold/otherwise parted with things that really were good, and I had very good and genuine things to say about them, but other concerns outweighed it (just taking a break from tracking, through my lovely VHT CL, for example, which I wouldnt have if I didnt part with 2 rather nice ibanezes; I needed the guitars less than the amp, sold an epi LP that rivaled decent gibsons in built, woods and general sound and feel because I didnt get on with the neck, etc etc etc)

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2010, 04:59:39 PM »
Some absolutely belting BS from cork-sniffing amp maker Alexander Dumble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw
This is, flat out, one of my favourite videos on YouTube, there's just so much to enjoy.

My biggest eyeroller is the use of "organic", as mentioned by others.  I generally find changing "organic" to say "free-range" whenever it's used on a board or in conversation. It gives a good sense of its meaningless quality as an adjective for discussing anything pertaining to guitars (apart from those who insist that hide glue obtained from organic livestock has a better tone of course).

It's not just musos who use organic when they shouldn't.  I've lost track of the number of times we've been asked to make a visual effect shot look "organic" by a client.  :roll:

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 05:46:41 PM »
i liek the term 'organic'... it could just as easily be 'woody' - but generally i know what i am referring to it when i say it... i just need a larger vocab

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2010, 05:53:20 PM »
I'm talking about the people, on ebay say, who completely rip the ass out of it with ridiculous compliments which just can't be true. :lol:

this recent ebay auction made me laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1983-Gibson-Explorer-Project-Great-Vintage-/220676926082?pt=Guitar&hash=item33615eaa82

Now, Here Is A GREAT VINTAGE Project Guitar ! In Very Good Overall Condition For It's Age.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2010, 06:02:01 PM »
Some absolutely belting BS from cork-sniffing amp maker Alexander Dumble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw
This is, flat out, one of my favourite videos on YouTube, there's just so much to enjoy.

My biggest eyeroller is the use of "organic", as mentioned by others.  I generally find changing "organic" to say "free-range" whenever it's used on a board or in conversation. It gives a good sense of its meaningless quality as an adjective for discussing anything pertaining to guitars (apart from those who insist that hide glue obtained from organic livestock has a better tone of course).

It's not just musos who use organic when they shouldn't.  I've lost track of the number of times we've been asked to make a visual effect shot look "organic" by a client.  :roll:

Its great, innit?

But whatever you do, dont listen to that guy that introduces him play. By christ its dreadfull.

I take, and when I use it mean organic to be basically the opposite of 'sharp'; its a softer attack in the top end, lower resonant peak, less tight bass, more in the 300-800hz fatter sounding mid-mids.

I find it a clear and unconfusing term. But then I assume everyone else that uses it uses it for the same things I do, which I suppose I cant know. But then I cant know that what we both call green, we actually see as the same colour either.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2010, 06:10:13 PM »
Some absolutely belting BS from cork-sniffing amp maker Alexander Dumble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw
This is, flat out, one of my favourite videos on YouTube, there's just so much to enjoy.

My biggest eyeroller is the use of "organic", as mentioned by others.  I generally find changing "organic" to say "free-range" whenever it's used on a board or in conversation. It gives a good sense of its meaningless quality as an adjective for discussing anything pertaining to guitars (apart from those who insist that hide glue obtained from organic livestock has a better tone of course).

It's not just musos who use organic when they shouldn't.  I've lost track of the number of times we've been asked to make a visual effect shot look "organic" by a client.  :roll:

Its great, innit?

But whatever you do, dont listen to that guy that introduces him play. By christ its dreadfull.
Oh I love that bit too.  It's just when you think you're just witnessed the most astonoshing thing you'll see on the net all day you suddenly realise you haven't and it kicks up an extra weird gear.  Genius.

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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »
I'm talking about the people, on ebay say, who completely rip the ass out of it with ridiculous compliments which just can't be true. :lol:

this recent ebay auction made me laugh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1983-Gibson-Explorer-Project-Great-Vintage-/220676926082?pt=Guitar&hash=item33615eaa82

Now, Here Is A GREAT VINTAGE Project Guitar ! In Very Good Overall Condition For It's Age.


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Re: Favourite Guitar Board BS
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2010, 07:14:47 PM »
Most vintage pedals were made with whatever components they had to hand and they most always have huge tolerances. As such, yeah, things sound different to each other. But modern kit with 'mojo' components wind me up royally. Pure marketing yet the likes of TGP lap it up. For example: "Kind of crazy but the inner components seem to justify the cost." (in reference to a Boutique pedal costing £400 that has some old Mullard transistors in it).

Now don't get me wrong, this comes from a position of envy on my part, in that the builder in question has rabid fans who will pretty much sell there own mothers for these pedals and I doff my cap to him. I'm certainly not dissing his pedals either, the build quality of them is exceptional (though I've built some clones of his silicon stuff and *really* don't like them), but there's about £50 in bits 'n' finishing (which to be fair costs more than you'd expect). I don't begrudge him a bit of profit either as we've all got to eat. But 800% is taking the piss a little... Still they're happy to pay it I suppose so I should probably STFU on this one!
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