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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2010, 03:26:37 PM »
Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.

I'm only an interested spectator!

Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems.  If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.
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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2010, 03:35:02 PM »
Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.

I'm only an interested spectator!

Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems.  If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.

Really? I don't think i have EVER heard any of your playing. It's a shame really

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2010, 03:38:17 PM »
Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.

I'm only an interested spectator!

Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems.  If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.

Yeah. Theres no harm at all in sending in an anonamous entry. Only the person that recieves and posts it (probably toeknee) will know its you, and we wont throw anything at you.

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2010, 03:43:22 PM »
Really? I don't think i have EVER heard any of your playing. It's a shame really

You don't want to, Tony.  Really!  :|  :wink:

I'm more a guitar enthusiast than a guitar player.

Even if I could play anything worth a shite, I'd have absolutely no idea how to record it.
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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2010, 04:00:49 PM »
Tut tut philly.

You use a recordy thing. At 1/5th the cost of one of your middle-priced guitars you can get a recordy thing and a mic

And I bet you can play. Youre just being coy. I'm going to ask the people that went to the guitar meets you were at. You must have played there.

Oh, and 'Light heavyweight'. Deary me. I was on to BK one day and out of idle curiosity asked how many posts you need to get heavyweight, because it seems to go on forever. Youre usually given some title like 'forum mega-king' at about 1000. Apparently no one knows. Someone must, but there you go

Anywho, less posting, more playing! ;) :)

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2010, 04:54:37 PM »
Anywho, less posting, more playing! ;) :)

You're right, but...... I'm fighting the ingrained habits of a lifetime.  Always something better less difficult to do.
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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2010, 05:13:23 PM »
Yeah that drum jam is rubbish for anything bluesy. It works for rock, metal and oddly enough grungy-industrial-awesomeness like someone on HCAF did!

I know it makes it a bit harder to organise but I think it would be better to have variety in the song structure etc rather than everyone playing over the same drum track. I could do a few drum tracks as I quite like programming drum tracks when I get into it. Only thing I can't do is anything with odd time sigantures :lol:

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2010, 05:50:50 PM »
I say we have two drum tracks. A light one and a medium-heavy one.

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2010, 06:41:16 PM »
Ive just been playing around with writing drum tracks.

And i for the life of me cannot write anything that isnt metal. And i also struggle to just write drums alone i seem to need something to go along with it.

So i'm going to have to hand the reigns over for this preliminary one.




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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2010, 07:16:24 PM »
Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.

I'm an interested spectator at the moment. Mainly because I can't quite figure out what we're aiming at :lol:

Is it to produce BKP clips for the players section? But then it seems like something else as well, collaborations... or recording songs... or... so I'm a bit confused.

Also, don't know about the others, but yes that drum track doesn't head down a bluesy route. Having said that, that style would fit under most of what I do unless I'm "having a blues jam".

HOWEVER! I never start with a drum arrangement - drum arrangements always come last with me, or at least after the dynamics and structure of the thing and most of the guide instruments are down. So I sat in front of that drum part with my guitar on and plucked a few things, and then thought... "nope, no idea what to do with this, sounds like the drummer was having fun, but..."

If there'd been a bass part on it to bounce of, I'd have been away. But an earlier post seemed to imply that people might find that restrictive? Not me... I can't start with drums alone unless it's just a nice click/groove with a repeating pattern, no fills or changes, the song or whatever dictates all that stuff later...

I spose, principally I'm either A) a songwriter and arranger or B) a guitarist that can sit in and jam off what other people are doing.

If I'm doing A) the song is KING for me, and it usually exists in its entirety, performable on an acoustic in my living room, before I start recording anything - and that kinda means I don't often feel that comfortable collaborating (one of the reasons I'm not in a band anymore :lol:).

If I'm doing B) it's because someone else (usually me from A) has a finished thing but they want me to write and play the guitar parts that complement what's already there. This means I'll happily jam over backing tracks (if I'm familiar enough with the musical style, or can make mine fit over it), but I want the basic structure and harmony all there...

I've tried creating backing tracks before, for myself to jam with at my leisure... but I find it an utter pain trying to record a thing that isn't going to be complete when you've finished... And then if it does go well, before you know it you end up with a finished song on top of it - so there's no way you're prepared to part with it as a backer! :lol:


So, at the moment, I'm watching with interest to see how I might fit in... :D
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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2010, 07:21:30 PM »
I know what you mean Andy, I have a hard time starting with just a drum track - those drums were from a failed "song" which I shortened and turned into the drum jam.

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2010, 07:25:47 PM »
There are actually a few aims.

1.Fun and games in the form of competitions
2.Song Writing collaberations
3.To have fun and generally revive the spirit of the forum form 2006 that seems to have dwindled.

I'm actually creating a forum for this so as not to end up with a massive thread on here and im gonna contact Tim about getting a link if it all goes well.

And the final aim i have for this is to get something together across a range of styles that Tim may seem good enough to go on BKP democracy!!.

Oh yeah also ill need moderators etc even though i know you lot are well behaved.

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2010, 08:53:56 AM »
Hey guys i have made a preliminary forum for the jamsite idea and i may have gone overboard with the categories etc but it can all be changed at a later date.

The site is still unnamed as i couldn't think of anything

The rules are not still set in stone but i thought it would be good if we all collectively got together and discussed what we want from this and how we would like it to be achieved as after all it is a community project.

Other than that the site is up in its preliminary stage for you all to browse and start posting if you feel the need :D

www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2010, 03:49:23 AM »
I'll be throwing up a couple of guides to kick off.

Join up and keep an eye out.

Tony, maybe start a new thread to tell people this exists?

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Re: Lets revive the players/bkp album thread
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2010, 06:08:32 AM »
I'll be throwing up a couple of guides to kick off.

Join up and keep an eye out.

Tony, maybe start a new thread to tell people this exists?

Very good idea mark.

Can you also upload the backing track or midi of it that you used somewhere and ill do the same too.