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Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« on: December 06, 2010, 02:09:57 AM »
But...

The tech wired them the wrong way on the switch, so everything is reversed!!! I had a bit of a special request, and I wanted the mid-position of my 5-way to be the bridge and neck INNER coils together ONLY. The tech had a few problems finding good wiring diagrams for this. He eventually thought that he fried the super switch that was already in the guitar and he put in a standard SwitchCraft switch, but it turned out his guitar cable actually gave out! Sounds funny, but he was a super nice guy, and these kind of things happen to the best of us.

Anyways, I have to take it back to have him rewire it. I think I'm going to have him put back the old super switch in just fo shites. I don't think there will be any problems there, and it shouldn't be fried.

They sound great though! A more detailed review will follow, but I am surely happy with the sound. they don't seem to be splitting all that great like the Aldrich's, but hey, its all good. Just wish I had a solid diagram to give the guy tomorrow.

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 07:31:45 AM »
congrats!

Pics would be cool!  :)
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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 10:35:59 AM »
Looking forward for your review. From clips, videos and some user reviews on harmony central I found the MMs seem to have a hollow/tuby quality in the low mids which gives a deep sound to them. If it's true that's what I'm after.

Hey hunter I saw your high gain shootout video on youtube. Very carefully thought and well made. Really helpful. I liked the SG with the MMs and the Axis with stock pickups the most for heavy stuff.
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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 09:35:05 PM »
They sound really good. I will need some time with them. I have finals Wednesday, so I won't be able to play until then. After school Wednesday I will be taking my guitar to have the wiring fixed as well. I just can't stand that switch reversed. I will surely get a great review up, but at first glance, compared to the Suhr Aldrichs, they are

more metal
tighter
deeper punch
better chuggz
smoother high end
less mids
all around less "all over the place" frequency wise  :D
not NEARLY as good split... almost pointless to split these at first glace... but I need to do more experimenting... I'm almost thinking the wiring is more messed up than just reversed...
easier on the ears
less cutting
surprisingly, cleans probably just as good, or even better!

 :D I'm happy. I take the bad with the goods, and I just need to really get these dialed in to see what all they're capable of. I believe they're exactly what I was looking for :U

More detailed review to come. Just wish I had a good wiring diagram. The tech was pulling wiring diagrams out of all kinds of sites.

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 09:40:46 PM »
I've got a good diagram but its with position 2 being the inner coils only.

it has

1. bridge humbucking
2, inner coils of both pickups (parralel if the neck pickups mag is reversed out of phase if it isnt)
3 both humbucking
4, neck parallel
5 neck humbucker

i attached it for you :) It's for an ibanez but the colours have been switched around to be for BKP and im sure it will help the tech get closer to what you want

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 09:48:00 PM »
You may have to reverse the magnet in one pickup , unless it was already specially made that way by BKP for this wiring to work right and to be hum-cancelling in the positions where an Ibanez would be
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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 08:27:59 AM »
Well, I'm not really interested in clean or split sounds from bridge. I'm thinking about an HSS MM/Trilogy/Trilogy set, so it'll be fine for me in any way.
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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 04:52:53 PM »
Just curious, having both hums on full blast, what tone would one be trying to achieve? I never liked that sound much...

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 04:55:19 PM »
Just curious, having both hums on full blast, what tone would one be trying to achieve? I never liked that sound much...

neither have i.

It's a bit too thick and undefined but it guess some people have a use for it otherwise it wouldn't be a standard wiring option on every H-H guitar

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 12:56:44 AM »
I thought this was kind of odd. Here were the ratings on the slip for my MM's:

Bridge 18.5 DC
Neck 18 DC

Thought that was hotter than expected...

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2010, 06:10:10 AM »
I'm not sure what the neck should be but my Bridge is 17.7k i would imagine the neck should usually be a bit lower thought.

But if they sound good it doesnt really matter

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2010, 11:54:20 AM »
I'm not sure what the neck should be but my Bridge is 17.7k i would imagine the neck should usually be a bit lower thought.

But if they sound good it doesnt really matter

Just a bit hotter, and a bit less of a difference than I imagined. It's definitely all goood though, just weirded me out a tad.

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2010, 07:20:38 PM »
I'm not sure what the neck should be but my Bridge is 17.7k i would imagine the neck should usually be a bit lower thought.

But if they sound good it doesnt really matter

The Miracle Man neck is identical to the bridge, but with an alnico V magnet instead of ceramic. They should be more or less the same DC resistance :)

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2010, 07:38:35 PM »
ahh thats that sorted then

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Re: Got the Miracle Man's in my Suhr!!! ...
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2010, 07:23:15 PM »
Got the pick-ups fixed! 8) Unfortunately, the guy who wired them wasn't able to figure out how to get the bridge/neck slug coils tapped together for the middle position of my 5-way... :(

I haven't played it through my amp since I got them fixed, but I played them through a Marshall JVM 4-channel amp and it freaking sounded AWESOME. What a cool amp. I'm really surprised by what Marshall put out. The cleans even sounded really really great on this amp.

I'm going to play through them later though my amp when I get home from work. I've been super excited about these pups for a while because I can tell they're what I wanted, but damn it sucks that I haven't had time to play lately.