guitar racism

[Twinfan]

:lol:

I'd love to see a VOS-style '85 resissue in Vintage Yellow but it won't happen.  Paul's belief is that guitars should be aged by the owner, so he's said he's not interested in doing a relic range.  Although they have done a clone relic job of Paul's original '57, so they CAN do it:

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2010/Nov/Experience_PRS_2010.aspx?Page=2

"There was also a main-stage Quest for Tone demo/comparison of new PRS guitars against a Holy Grail-caliber ’50s goldtop Les Paul and a sunburst ’50s Strat. But perhaps the most talked-about moment of the weekend involved Paul Reed Smith tossing that same a late-’50s goldtop Les Paul back and forth with employees. Audience members shrieked and gasped while peeking at the madness through the cracks of their fingers. As it turns out, the goldtop was a Gibson reissue that Paul’s team had done a relic job on so it matched the vintage Les Paul from the Quest for Tone demo. People who saw the guitar up close say it was spot-on. Smith’s point: PRS is capable, but has decided not to offer relic’ing because they believe owners should put wear and tear on instruments by playing them."

[dave_mc]

I am a "live and let live" merchant. I am also aware that opinions can change.

+1 on both points.

Which may go someway to identify the type of people that usually buy PRS'  :lol:

Is there something wrong with not liking dings in guitars? I don't like dings in guitars, and I don't own any PRSes. :?

FWIW, I think PRSes are too pricey for how good they are (if I were willing to spend that amount of money on one guitar I'd get something else), but I have no problem with people spending that amount of money on a guitar, which a lot of the PRS haters seem to have a problem with. Then another bunch of PRS haters have no problem with spending as much if not more money on a Fender or Gibson, which I really don't understand... :lol:

[Twinfan]

^ exactly Dave!  PRS haters are an odd bunch, making their own rules up as they go along  :lol:

[dave_mc]

yeah :lol:

Don't get me wrong, if I had limitless funds I'd have a PRS or 2 in there, but if I had enough money for just one super-guitar... I'd probably get a tyler or something like that (assuming I had to buy something off the shelf).

EDIT: I have to confess those Mira Xes at £700 had me interested for a while, but I couldn't try them first :lol:

[Brow]

Is there something wrong with not liking dings in guitars? I don't like dings in guitars, and I don't own any PRSes. :?

FWIW, I think PRSes are too pricey for how good they are (if I were willing to spend that amount of money on one guitar I'd get something else), but I have no problem with people spending that amount of money on a guitar, which a lot of the PRS haters seem to have a problem with. Then another bunch of PRS haters have no problem with spending as much if not more money on a Fender or Gibson, which I really don't understand... :lol:

I'm not a massive fan of dings in guitars either, but I live in the real world and know that stuff like that happens.

I just think that to turn down a guitar at that (comparatively speaking) 'cheap' price because of a ding in the top is crazy. Ah well, their loss was my gain!  :lol:

[nfe]

People who saw the guitar up close say it was spot-on. Smith’s point: PRS is capable, but has decided not to offer relic’ing because they believe owners should put wear and tear on instruments by playing them."

What a fanny. Look at us, we're great and can do this but we're not going to.

Why bother? Why not just say we've no interest in doing it. No one is going to think they're only not going to because they're not capable.

[Twinfan]

I get the impression it was also a display of the skills of their finish guys...

[nfe]

They make the ruddy Dragon guitars, what bigger advert do they need.  :lol:

Seems awfully silly, to me. They're PRS, people are well aware of what they can do in terms of finishes, they don't need to garner themselves relic bragging-rights. Dafties.

[WezV]

we all like to play around with projects every now and again - i guess the R&D guys at PRS are no different.

whats wrong with them trying something different, but then deciding its not the direction they want to take the company? 

[nfe]

Absolutely nothing. Parading it around in the way Smith's quote suggests is odd, though.

[dave_mc]

I'm not a massive fan of dings in guitars either, but I live in the real world and know that stuff like that happens.

I just think that to turn down a guitar at that (comparatively speaking) 'cheap' price because of a ding in the top is crazy. Ah well, their loss was my gain!  :lol:

fair enough, just from the way you said it it sounded like you thought people were mad if they didn't like dings in their guitars :lol:

[Philly Q]

Absolutely nothing. Parading it around in the way Smith's quote suggests is odd, though.

I'm not sure it is a quote as such, perhaps just someone else's interpretation of whatever Smith actually said.  My impression was that they've done it as an experiment, not that they're really bragging about doing it.

Smith’s point: PRS is capable, but has decided not to offer relic’ing because they believe owners should put wear and tear on instruments by playing them."

[WezV]

yeah, i bet its more a case of them frequently being asked if they would do a relic... and  replying that they have considered and even experimented with it, but decided it wasnt for them

PRS likes talking guitars - i can imagine him responding that way rather than the 'wouldn't you like to know' response you would get from other companies

[AndyR]

Interesting how this thread has gone - I spose it had to... :lol:

I find it hard to understand how any guitarist could "hate" any type or make of guitar. I can easily understand how you can end up hating a particular guitar that does you wrong (won't set up, always breaks strings, etc...)

Obviously there are some guitar designs that are somewhat "individual" and most of us wouldn't be seen dead wearing them... but hate them?

And seeing as there seems to be some PRS banter going down... Are there really "PRS haters" out there? Or is it just the way they're talking-up or exaggerating a feeling of "not for me"?

I'm not sure there's anything that needs defending. My favourite guitar is a strat. Lots of people don't get on with one, some express it quite strongly, no worries - it's their problem. They're not missing anything that they want, that's cool. But why they should feel the need to go up against a HUGE number of folks who do seem to get on with one and who couldn't give a toss what other people think amazes me... they aren't going to convince the people who like strats, and the people who like strats just think they're somewhat daft... what are they gaining?

^ Substitute "strat" with "tele", "PRS", "Les Paul", "SG", "V", "Dean Razorback" (OK, that might be stretching it!), "Steinberger", whatever... it's all the same.

I'm kinda bemused :lol:

[Transcend]

I wouldn't say i HATE PRS i just wouldn't ever consider owning/buying or even playing another one of them.

They just don't work for me i guess they're a bit too 'polite' for my liking.