Mahogany + Painkiler = Alder/maple + ???

[Pale Rider]

My experience with all my pickups so far in my fairly bright guitars is that brightness is always controllable.

Both my guitars are Floyd Rose superstrats (one is basswood bolt-on maple and the other is mahogany with a maple top and maple neck). Guess what...the mahogany one is brighter. I had SD Custom, Demon and L500XL in it (among others). All three can be described as pickups with a lot of highs. They all sounded really good. ;)

[MVM]

So, my first pickup Bare Knuckle was the Miracle Man. I asked Tim to direct me to some extremely crunch pickup and he told MM.
It was excellent, but for my personal taste, I found it very focused and tight, I know these are good qualities, but did not sound so rock and roll as I think it should sound, and I needed more mids. I tried the C-Pig, but it have much bass...
My friend Eric (HellStyle) had indicated the Painkiller. And I found my pickup!
Now, I sent an e-mail to Tim with doubt that I put this topic here, and he again recommended me Miracle Man .. hehehe ... Well... Only pay to see again.

[ericsabbath]

I actually recommended you the holy diver, but you are biased against alnico pickups

THAT is the most rockin' BKP model  :D

[Roobubba]

Christ, the MM was too tight and you ended up with a PK?

Did anyone else just say 'WTF?'

If it's rockin' you want, you really, really, really should check out an AlNiCo BKP. If it's for metal/*core then you're probably better off with ceramic. But if you've not tried a BKP AlNiCo pickup yet and your only experience is with a, shall we say, less reputable set of pickups, I can well understand your reticence to take our advice on this...

Roo

[ev1ltwin]

Christ, the MM was too tight and you ended up with a PK?

Did anyone else just say 'WTF?'

I think you're overestimating his English. It sounds he's using tight to mean dense/focused/thick, not "the opposite of boomy" like most people on this forum use tight. The first definition on Merriam Webster says "1 a : having elements close together <a tight formation> <a tight line of type>". This falls in line with him thinking the Miracle Man was focused and... "tight." Maybe I'm giving him too much credit or overthinking things.

[ericsabbath]

he had the miracle man in another identical dean
the bigger, punchier, more in your face and just as dense bass response makes the "tight" part sound more present on palm mutes, although it doesn't have the painkiller scratchin' edge
I think the proper word would be "thump"
he wants something with enough bass and lower mids to make alder/bolt-on/maple neck sound as thick as mahogany, but with less "thump" than the miracle man

[Transcend]

i would possibly say aftermath just on your description eric.

I wouldnt say it will make it sound like mahogany BUT

there is certainly a lot less thump its tighter apparently (i beg to differ on this i would just say its drier) and the mids are good but not overbearing

[ev1ltwin]

Based on Eric's post, I'm gonna have to go with Ceramic Nailbomb. It was recommended to me by Nick @ the Axe Palace for a very similar guitar and tonal request. He recommends Nailbombs, HolyDivers, and Warpigs for bright guitars (also he recommends Painkillers for mahogany, so he seems right on with what MVM is thinking there). Seeing as MVM likes ceramics (no holydiver) and doesn't like the warpig, that leaves the C-bomb.

[Pale Rider]

Once you've found your best sound in the PK/mahogany setup why duplicate it anyway?

You can try something different to have more options. That way you'll be open to lower output rock n rollers too. ;)

[dheim]

Once you've found your best sound in the PK/mahogany setup why duplicate it anyway?

You can try something different to have more options. That way you'll be open to lower output rock n rollers too. ;)

+1

what's the point in owning more than one guitar if you look for a single tone? ;)

[ericsabbath]

backup?  :D

anyway, I still think he should give the alnico models a chance

[MVM]

Ok.
I will research (and hear more samples) about Ceramic Nailbomb and HolyDiver and i'll choose one.
Thank you very much.