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carlaz

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« on: January 07, 2006, 02:02:09 PM »
So along with dusting off the guitar and figuring out how to pimp it up, I've decided I really ought to improve my technique. :)   I've spent years faking my way through gigs and recording relying totally on ear and instincts.  These have actually served me pretty well, but there are limits, and I think I actually ought to learn some technique :)  I have no doubt that my fingering is hideously inefficient, and there are lots of little basic riffs and figures and stuff that I should probably have in my repetoire but don't.

What I probably should do is take some lessons :) but I'm probably not organized enough to sort that  out in the near future; got too much Real Life going on.  But I might get somewhere with the right kind of instructional book or DVD.  Anyone have any recommendations for this kind of thing?
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2006, 02:35:43 PM »
Honestly, the best way to learn is to have a teacher right infront of you.  That way you can get immediate feedback on what you're doing rightly or wrongly, and you'll be able to ask for advice on whatever you want, instead of hoping the DVD will go into enough detail for you.

Even if you only manage to fit in one hour long lesson per fortnight it'll help you along the right track :)

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2006, 03:44:54 PM »
Oooo, I was afraid of hearing what I knew was the right answer! ;)
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2006, 04:45:42 PM »
Kinda same here Carlaz

Took first lesson on Thursday and went rather well.

Best book (am getting others in series) have found to help/read though is; from this guy.

http://www.heavyguitar.com/index.html

His stuff just makes sense to me and is easy to read.

My 0.01cent anyway.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2006, 06:00:23 PM »
Actually Carlaz, I could have written your post- same applies to me and time constraints are the ever restricting factor but I shall have to make time. I hope you find a good teacher- it'll be interesting to hear how you get on.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2006, 08:14:02 PM »
Teacher is possible, but don't think that just because they are a teacher of guitar, that they can show you how to efficiently execute a certain technique, there are probably teachers around with worse technique than your own believe it or not! I think there is enough information in books and on the internet to become almost a virtuoso in the comfort of your own home, only thing that goes against most people is lazyness.

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2006, 08:57:25 PM »
Quote from: Cattivo Ragazzo
I think there is enough information in books and on the internet to become almost a virtuoso in the comfort of your own home, only thing that goes against most people is lazyness.


Maybe, but a teacher can help overcome that and provide motivation and a sense of direction. There's only so much on the internet that you can learn from, I've been on pretty much all of the relevant guitar tuition websites due to working with Shredaholic.com, and there's quite a lot you'd get from a teacher that you don't find on the net.

In addition to books there's ebooks which are often cheaper, we advertise them on our site (http://www.shredaholic.com/support.html) and the Screaming Fingers ones seem to be pretty popular - they offer a refund if it doesn't work but hardly anyone takes it up.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 12:11:40 AM »
Thing I worry about with books is the difficulty of transferring a written description and bunch of charts into what to actually do with my fingers.  I've always had a good enough ear that I can often play something that sounds about right -- or make up something new that sounds fine within my limitations -- but if I saw how to do it more efficiently, I could probably do it better.  That's why I was wondering about an instructional DVD -- though a decent teacher would be better, if I could find one and the time to go to regular lessons!

I remember watching the little bonus lessons from Zakk Wylde on that BLS concert video and thinking "Oh, so that's how you do that!" -- well, that and a lot of time locked in a room with a metronome ;)  But it would be great to see explanations along the lines of "here's a common and useful lick, do it like that, no not like that, like this, right, now practice that until it's kinda fluid, OK, now here's a place you can use it, and here are some other things that work well with it ...."

The sort of thing that teachers are good at, if you've got one :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 12:24:33 AM »
Quote from: carlaz
Thing I worry about with books is the difficulty of transferring a written description and bunch of charts into what to actually do with my fingers.  I've always had a good enough ear that I can often play something that sounds about right -- or make up something new that sounds fine within my limitations -- but if I saw how to do it more efficiently, I could probably do it better.  That's why I was wondering about an instructional DVD -- though a decent teacher would be better, if I could find one and the time to go to regular lessons!


Yeah I found it hard to learn stuff from "normal" tabs. However with the Guitar Pro program I find it alot easier, maybe you'd wanna try that? www.guitarpro.com

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 02:01:42 AM »
:D It`s always a good idea to get lessons with a teacher, As has been pointed out they help to iron out those little misinterpretations you get from trying to do it all from technique books etc......

Ask around & or check out your local Music shop, there`ll have a list or will no the local teachers there`ll also be able to recommend good teachers to you.......

Be clear about what it is you want to learn...... DON`T go to a Jazz teacher expecting him to be able to show you how to shred !!!

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