This tone please

[tomm]

Hi all
i have a new tele and i want to change its bridge pickup.I'm looking for theese kind of tones

Clean (the first minute of the video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_h7IAHXxMw

Over the top fuzz(black keys docet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_h7IAHXxMw

Please help me :)
Cheers

[Twinfan]

Blackguards, a nice amp and a pile of talent?

[Telerocker]

Blackquards. They are something special. Big tele tones.

[tomm]

thanks!but wich kind of blackguards?

[AndyR]

:lol: I'm not sure too many of us know yet. The range changed recently.

I've got two sets of the old Flat 50s. I understand that these are now called the 52s. I can't really comment on the other Blackguards.

Mine are in maple board teles and I love them. They can get sounding close to that clip, but I'm not sure they'd be the best BKPs for it. The sound on that vid is kind of "tighter" than my Blackguards. I have Yardbirds as well, they ring more like that but are less aggressive sounding in comparison.

I've not played them personally, but I'm wondering Brown Sugars myself?

[gordiji]

blackguards. a lot of that tone is coming from the vox though. i did have a couple of 90's ASAT's which where much
more middy than that although they had the soapbar style pups.
i also have the old BGflat 50's which will do anything a tele should be able to do in spades.i'm also pretty sure
all the vintage sets would get you there with a bit of amp tweaking.

[tomm]

so....52 or 50's?the tele has a maple board...however in the first video the asat runs trough a vox...in the second dan auerbac crancked a blues junior...i ve an orange that is more in the fender way...

[Telerocker]

The 52-set is like the old '50-set, so with the stratty neckpickup and the bridge around 7k. The new Flat50-set is less bright and way hotter. Pick one of these for a mapleboardtele. They handle drive/distortion very well.

[Ratrod]

Though I love my BG, I think for the tone in that vid, the Brown Sugar would be better.

[AndyR]

Though I love my BG, I think for the tone in that vid, the Brown Sugar would be better.

+1

Granted that the amps are contributing a fair bit to this tone, I've just got a feeling that there's a better BKP for this than BG.

I don't know where I read it on here, but I've heard the Brown Sugars described as a "hotter Yardbird". And that's what I thought yesterday - if my Yardbirds were hotter they'd be spot on for this.

It's actually making me wonder whether I should have got Brown Sugars instead of a second set of BGs a couple of years ago! :lol:

[tomm]

ok,now i'm confused   :lol: blackguards vs brown sugar..

[Telerocker]

Listen to the Roy Fulton-vid, the old Blackguard 50-set, which is now the 52-set to make it complicated.  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8QO8MexLv0

[tomm]

mmm no i don't think they suit my sound...the tone i'm looking for is a fat-round bright blues tele tone,like a  tele with a bit of the gibson 335's sound

[Telerocker]

Listen the clips on the website once again. Maybe the Brown Sugars are what you want. Mind you, according to the eq-charts the BS has more treble and less bass then the Blackguards. If that is what you're looking for, Brown Sugar it is.

[Ratrod]

It's just when I heard that clip, it instantly reminded me of the song Brown Sugar. That ballsy, snappy twang.

The BG can do that with the right attitude in the playing, just not as pronounced as that.