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St.James

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2011, 04:13:49 PM »
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Dmoney

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2011, 04:18:15 PM »
I don't understand what the treble bleed is you mean. sorry.

Do you mean when you put a resistor and cap from the volume pot input to the wiper?
I wouldn't really call that a bleed. It's more like a bypass. Those aren't in the photo either.

Shag101

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2011, 04:38:12 PM »
thanks for the documentation St.James.  i will give them a read..

so here is the deal...something must have changed in my living room because i just done what i should have done in the beginning.  I went to the other side of the house and plugged up.  The hum is considerably less and is how i remember it.   :oops:

i appreciate everyones time on this.!!!

one last question.........would shielding the guitar make any difference or does the metal housing of the pups do a good job of that as is and it wont matter?
Mississippi Queen Set = Gibson SG Standard
Warpig = '88 Charvel Model 1

Dmoney

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2011, 04:51:39 PM »
I think this has been talked about before.

The metal covers should be enough.
adding shielding under the pickups is a source of conversation on the effects of metals in close proximity to the pickups magnetic field. some claim it stiffles the sound from the pup, however I have shielding the pup cavities on my les paul, although it has open coils, and I have no such problem.

Shielding the control cavity seems to be accepted as a nice move. Maybe it makes more difference if you use single core push back wire, since I use braided shield most of the time, there aren't any long lengths of unshielded wire in my guitars anyway. My charvel has no cavity shielding and is as quiet as my les paul. both use braided shield wire.

I'd imagine it might help a little, but the pickups/amp proximity issue probably won't be effected, and I doubt it would effect mains hum getting from your wall into your amplifier power supply.

other may know more. but thats my take on it

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2011, 01:03:54 AM »
cool, thats what i was thinking. 

If i put the cavity in front of the amp, the hiss does not get louder so i'm guessing it will be a waste of time..

thanks again for the assistance everyone.....


Anyone reading this that might be thrown off by the hum i'm talking about...don't pass these up just for that if interested in a P-90..
I do think the MQ's are still the best pickups i've ever played...
Mississippi Queen Set = Gibson SG Standard
Warpig = '88 Charvel Model 1

St.James

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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2011, 10:57:53 AM »
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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2011, 04:39:21 PM »
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Sounds like what I was offering to help your figure out ....You were on a heavily used circuit that created DIRTY NOISE within the circuit you were plugged into.

The BEST WAY to fix that permanently is to run two designated circuits one for your amp and one for your 9 volt source.

Just wanted to mentioned this can hard if you're in an apartment block for example and you don't know the state of the building wiring. Say you have an air con unit on and that and everything else comes off one small ring. That is inviting noise. Some places are just prone to having noisy mains. Circuits with motors attached to them are the worst. Staying away from PC's is a good bet too.

The also sell niose reduction applications but they are basically censoring the noise NOT eliminating it

You could use something like an ICP decimater to gate out your guitar when you're not playing. Or something similar. But if it sounds good now then I wouldn't worry.

If ya want to really bring out your tone to where you can do TONE SWIRLS replace that cheap .022mf plastic capacitor with a.044 mf ORANGE DROP, VITAMIN Q, GREY TIGER, or BUMBLE BEE and your tone will be 10 times better !!!!

He already has Orange Drops in the guitar, and the cheaper ones are usually Ceramic Disc. What is a Tone Swirl?

If you have a drop off  in yur mids and highs when you lower your Volume you can out a very inexpensive (1-2 bucks) treble bleeder in and it holds mids n highs and let;s them disepate slowly and evenly...making you tone more even and have it fade equally.

I tried this once and didn't like it. the treble bleed mod is this (below)... It works because the cap and resistor work as an RC Filter. Letting frequencies above a certain point bypass the volume pot. VERY similar to a bright cap you might find on an amps gain control.

The trouble is, with anything like a bright cap done in this way, the effect is dependent on exactly where your volume control is set. this is also true on an amp, bright caps don't work all the time because the resistive value in the RC Filter changes as you move the dial, thus changing the frequency response of the circuit. In the picture below. The cap is letting high frequencies bypass the pot, and the resistor in parallel with the pot (input and output) is effecting the value of the pot seen by the signal. So if you had your pot was turned to have a value of 100K, the total resistance seen by the input would be 50K. If your pot was on 500K, total resistance would be 83.333K

I found that it just made rolling off volume create a tone that was too bright from my guitar.



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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2011, 11:43:38 AM »
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Re: Hum Issue
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Re: Hum Issue
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2011, 09:52:33 AM »
P90 style, they all tend to hum
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