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ShredHeadJHJ

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Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« on: April 16, 2011, 08:17:35 AM »
And I need some direction :p :p

I just bought a Warmoth Les Paul from a local guy the other day. Seems to have came along at a pretty sweet time because I have been loosely hunting for a nice aftermarket LP for a while. Specs below:

Body: Black Korina :) (Clear finish) :)
Top: Maple (Black top, no flame/quilt)
Neck: Mahogany
Fretboard: Ebony
Bridge: Gold Gotoh Tune-O-Matic
Tuners: Gold Locking Sperzels
Bridge Pup: SD Distortion
Neck Pup: SD Slash Alinico Pro II
Electronics: Added push-pull pot to split both hums

This is going to sound slightly odd, but I haven't really even heard the guitar through any kind of decent rig yet. I played it for about 10 minutes through some sort of practice amp before buying it. It was really dirty and definitely needed some TLC when I got it home. Before I could even get it home I had to get the strings off of it. I took the bridge off, scrubbed it, and buffed the hell out of the body. I taped the entire fretboard and polished the hell out of the frets with steel wool. I sanded the neck and I have a coat of satin finish drying on the neck now. Going to sand and apply another coat or two on it over the next few days. Should come out really nice, I hope :)

Anyways, I won't be able to play the guitar for a few anyways. It's going to be a bad week for me. I need to get the guitar all situated and I am cabless at the moment. I'm waiting on a new Port City Standard 2x12 to arrive, and I should be receiving it shortly :)

A-N-Y-W-A-Y-S-! - To get back on track -


I am trying to get some suggestions on what to put in it. I have Miracle Man's in my Suhr, so that is going to be my tight metal guitar. I want something more organic in this guitar. It has to be able to EASILY handle metal as that is the core of what I play, but I would also like to get some fresh new sounds out of the guitar. I'm either going to set the guitar up for Eb or D with 11's. Something that splits well, or at least has that general vibe that it might split well, would be nice. A fair amount of output will be needed... But nothing over the top. I'm assuming that a C-WP, for example, would be more than what I am looking for... I think... I always like tight pups, but I want something with a tad of open character this time around. Also, I want something on the warm side, and definitely NOT something bright and piercing. I'm thinking about trying to go more with an 80's rock sort of sound, if that makes sense... Maybe... I don't know... Yet... For sure...

As a guideline, I have also been heavily thinking about putting a set of Rio Grande BBQ/Texas hums in this guitar. I have; however, decided that I would rather try a set of BKPs that perhaps have a bit more tightness and hotness, but still somehow retain a somewhat similar character if possible.

Since the guitar has a very distinct look with the gold hardware, there is a HUGE part of me that wants to jump right into the Gold Ray Gun Covered Rebel Yells. I like the clips I've heard and the site description of RY's seems very very neat, but I am scarred from the reviews I have read on here from people describing the pick ups as being "piercing". I have a pretty bright amp (Splawn Quick Rod)... While the MM's tame the amp's bright character quite well, I'm looking for a different sound with this guitar... An Alinico-5 bridge pup will definitely go in this one.

Here are some BKP's that I am interested in trying, but I am definitely open for suggestions:

Rebel Yells
Holy Divers
A5 Warpigs (mayyyyybe)
A5 Nail Bombs (an even bigger maaaaaayyyyyyyybe)
WP or NB bridge / Cold Sweat neck
Or... depending on how good BKP's warranty is... I may be willing to try a slightly lower output bridge... A big part of me really wants to try the VHII set, but I'm afraid to put them in the LP.
Or anything that I might like


BTW, I would like to hear some thoughts on korina wood too? Thanks for reading.

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 11:14:42 AM »
The sound you describe seems to suggest Holydiver to me more than anything else but if you like the idea of a Rebel Yell I would imagine the A-Bomb would be a good choice as well as I believe the RY was based on an A-Bomb so I assume it would give a similar tone without being as bright and piercing. If you fancy more vintage hot, how about Black Dogs, though that's a real shot in the dark as I've never tried them myself.
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Bridge - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; A-Bomb; Holydiver; Miracle Man; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

Neck - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; Holydiver; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 05:49:29 PM »
If your Les Paul is not overly bright, I would certainly take a bet on the RY's.
Mules, VHII, Crawler, MM's, IT's, BG50's.

ShredHeadJHJ

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 06:05:57 PM »
Well, it has an ebony board in it now, but I may eventually put a new neck in with a Brazilian rosewood board. That will warm the guitar up. I don't know yet if the guitar is bright, but it has a Korina body. From what I hear korina is just like mahogany but with a tad more lower mids.

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 12:09:58 AM »
The ebony board adds some percussiveness. Maybe look at pickups a little warmer in the midrange and a little more vintage(hot)-sounding like the Abraxas.
Mules, VHII, Crawler, MM's, IT's, BG50's.

ShredHeadJHJ

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 03:16:29 AM »
How would the covers affect the tone? Are all BKP covers metal?

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 05:37:43 AM »
no pics, no tips  :x
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ShredHeadJHJ

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 05:44:05 AM »
no pics, no tips  :x

The guitar is in pieces bro. Still want pics :) I can get some up tomorrow when I get off work. I'm a bum that buys $3000 guitars and custom pedals and I won't spend $70 on a digital camera, BUT luckily I have my friend's here that I borrowed the other day :)

I'll take pics tomorrow afternoon, and when I get them up... When I do, I DARE someone to say that the Ray Gun RYs wouldn't look killer in this guitar.

RY vs A-NB... What are the differences?
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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 01:27:02 AM »
A-bomb has a tad more bass. Both have agressive uppermids. The RY's are quite cutting.
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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 01:47:14 AM »
The whole pic idea has been 86'ed for the time being. My friend came to pick up his camera.

I love the idea of RY's, but I'm not quite sold on them. I want a smooth upper midrange and not something that has a chance of sounding harsh, especially with the ebony board and all.

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 01:54:56 AM »
After reading what Tim says here about covered pick-ups:

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10.0

It makes me feel a little better about ordering gold covered RY's. Sounds like it can help to keep the highs a tad smoother.

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 06:01:40 PM »
AGGRESSIVE
SIZZLING
Not overly tight
Not piercing, but not dark
Cutting (but again, not piercing)
Throaty
BOLD
ORGANIC
Takes well to high gain Marshally (Splawn) tones
Goes well in (korina) Les Pauls
Usable in a variety of situations

Those are all things that I am looknig for.

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
This is a VERY initial response and I'll post something more detailed later but if Rebel Yells are tighter than a Nailbomb then I think you'll find them too tight based on your description. I've just fitted an A-Bomb to the bridge of my Jackson SL3 and it really is ludicrously tight. I've played ceramics with less tightness so I dread to think what the Rebel Yells will be like. I'm going to have a play around with the pickup height to see if I can tame it somewhat as I had asked for a pickup that was 'fat and fluid with a fairly tight bottom end' and all I have at the moment is a pickup that is VERY tight and nothing else. If anyone has any suggestions then please chime in.
BKP owned:

Bridge - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; A-Bomb; Holydiver; Miracle Man; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

Neck - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; Holydiver; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 06:18:55 PM »
Rebel Yell...!
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Re: Setting myself up for a new set of BKP's...
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 06:23:01 PM »
Take a look at the Holy Divers. They have big mids and rounded topend. They do great leads. Could be too much middyness in korina though. I think you'd better ask Tim on this one.
Mules, VHII, Crawler, MM's, IT's, BG50's.