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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2011, 12:22:35 PM »
I've had experience with:

- Duncan Invader
- Duncan JB
- EMG81
- PATB2

Recently, I bought an Aftermath, and now I'm considering buying more for other guitars as well. It's a completely different beast: don't expect any kind of "fizz", the aftermath is tight as hell, very dry and very unforgiving, but its midrange has a special quality to it, very musical and powerful. IMHO it's a great upgrade on any of pickups you've listed, if clarity and fast attack are what you're after.

yeah man, I just have to get it and try it.. I know that it will have a home in at least a low tuning or two. I love the Painkiller! With the right rig and signal path, it can do anything.. even cleans. would you play the aftermath in standard or drop D tunings?

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2011, 12:43:43 PM »
I prefer the aftermath in Standard/Eb & D standard at the lowest.

I find it sounds cr@p in anything below that. But i also find tunings below that to sound cr@p also....

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2011, 01:19:39 PM »
I've had experience with:

- Duncan Invader
- Duncan JB
- EMG81
- PATB2

Recently, I bought an Aftermath, and now I'm considering buying more for other guitars as well. It's a completely different beast: don't expect any kind of "fizz", the aftermath is tight as hell, very dry and very unforgiving, but its midrange has a special quality to it, very musical and powerful. IMHO it's a great upgrade on any of pickups you've listed, if clarity and fast attack are what you're after.

yeah man, I just have to get it and try it.. I know that it will have a home in at least a low tuning or two. I love the Painkiller! With the right rig and signal path, it can do anything.. even cleans. would you play the aftermath in standard or drop D tunings?

Well, I use the aftermath in Drop D exclusively ;)

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2011, 10:13:44 PM »


lastly, have you tried the duncan full shred? its an incredible thrash metal pickup.. it has it all, and its alnico V. Just don't go below drop C# with it. People have no idea that the sh-10 is perhaps one of Duncan's finest achievements.

Why can't you go below C# with the Full Shred?  :?

well you can, and I'm sure it would sound good to some ears or with a real thin sounding amp. I think that for me, once I'm down in drop C or lower, its ceramic BKP time. Clarity and tightness.. the full shred has both, but because of the alnico V magnet, gets a little outtahand for me down below drop C# (or C# standard I guess).

I've heard it in B standard and it rocked just fine......

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2012, 09:50:46 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFjMGHuNpOg&sns=em

I think this new youtube video backs my case up pretty well, but it also makes wonder to buy a ceramic warpig and a sh8 invader too.............hmmmmmmmm
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2012, 11:15:26 PM »
with that you have to take into consideration that it is done with a modeller/profiler and it the original amp will have undoubtedly been set up for a specific guitar with a specific pickup.

This will greatly affect the results.
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2012, 12:32:13 AM »
As I play duncan distortions now and have been for 17 years, and having tried the painkiller, aftermath and a sh8, the video is pretty darn close. Though i play through a all valve Marshall TSL 100, and i hear what you're saying, my sound is far less compressed than that video, but it shows acurately the differences. I really like the warpig, i hope it was the ceramic one, and i like the tight unfuzzy mids of the sh8 invader and the warpig. I have to say that my only complaint of the sh6 duncan distortion over the years is that the mids a LITTLE fizzy instead of growly like I prefer. But i figured out to make a sh6 sound smililar to the mids of the painkiller, simpley by having the treble down 1 notch below where your presence is, at least in a marshall
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2012, 09:37:58 AM »
Sounds to me that you like the SH-6 as your tone.........don't let people on the internet influence you if that's your tone..........Ola Englund loves the Distortion and his tone owns.......but then again I am finally liking BKP's after sifting them thru several axes.......to me it's all about matching the right guitar with the right BKP........they can sound like cr@p with the wrong match just like any other pickup.......but when you pair one correctly it can be rewarding...... 8)
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2012, 12:32:09 PM »
to me it's all about matching the right guitar with the right BKP........

THen its all matching the right guitar with the right amp!

I used to love the cold sweat with my marshall TSL but when i got the SLO it was too thin and brash sounding.
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2012, 06:09:38 AM »
to me it's all about matching the right guitar with the right BKP........

THen its all matching the right guitar with the right amp!

I used to love the cold sweat with my marshall TSL but when i got the SLO it was too thin and brash sounding.

That's why I went Axe-FX almost  3 years ago and no longer have that problem. I can make any pickup/guitar sound decent with the Axe-FX.......some pickups do sound better though/as well as guitars......much better...... 8) :lol:

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2012, 11:28:04 PM »
Uhm, is it just me or did those clips sound 99% the same??? The pickups sounded almost identical. Trying to say one sounded better is to me a bit like saying Coca-Cola tastes better than Pepsi.
Which btw, as experiments have proven, are impossible to distinguish.
Only the "Death Metal" one was a bit more insightful, the Warpig had better tracking and cut better through the mix than the SH8... but then the Aftermatch and SH-6 sounded, again, like broootalzzzz!!!!
I blame the high gain on that. The tubescreamer and the Mesa model already impart so much of their own tone on the signal, if you compress it even more I think the majority of pickups will just sound the same on a recording.

Can't comment on the feel while playing, of course.
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2012, 12:31:12 AM »
Uhm, is it just me or did those clips sound 99% the same??? The pickups sounded almost identical. Trying to say one sounded better is to me a bit like saying Coca-Cola tastes better than Pepsi.
Which btw, as experiments have proven, are impossible to distinguish.
Only the "Death Metal" one was a bit more insightful, the Warpig had better tracking and cut better through the mix than the SH8... but then the Aftermatch and SH-6 sounded, again, like broootalzzzz!!!!
I blame the high gain on that. The tubescreamer and the Mesa model already impart so much of their own tone on the signal, if you compress it even more I think the majority of pickups will just sound the same on a recording.

Can't comment on the feel while playing, of course.
agreed. I think modelling/profiling amp the amp imposes allot more of the tone than the pick up does. 3 different pick ups sound completley differnt through my dual rec .

I think the warpig won his one though. there just this sound in the bottom end I love . its still a chugg more than a djent but it has a unique qualtiy . was the sealer in me buying one to try
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2012, 01:09:37 PM »
my speakers are awful, but I could notice the duncans are definitely harsher and fizzier
tonewise, all of them sounded almost the same
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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2012, 04:25:21 PM »
I only listened to a little bit of the video. The Duncans immediately sounded squishier than the others, the Aftermath was obviously much crunchier and tighter - it's "squeaky" tight, a little more open sounding, and has a more tense, angry midrange, which squares with my experience. I suppose Keith didn't change the patch he was playing through, which is good for comparison but doesn't show you what can be done to settle in with each individual pickup; EQing before the amp, fiddling with compression, etc.

My money is on the Warpig being more detailed sounding than the non-BKP options. (I was immediately blown away after replacing an alnico EMG.) I suppose you should get the Pig if you like to chug and you like the impact of the picking sound and a thick tone, or get the Aftermath if you want more brightness and a tenser, tighter crunch. The Warpig (at least the ceramic one I have) is not at all loose sounding, but the Aftermath has this immediate, dry sound that plays and feels differently. Either would be good depending on your needs.

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Re: BKP Aftermath vs the Sh6 Duncan Distortion
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2012, 05:18:38 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFjMGHuNpOg&sns=em

I think this new youtube video backs my case up pretty well, but it also makes wonder to buy a ceramic warpig and a sh8 invader too.............hmmmmmmmm

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