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Nolly

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DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« on: June 10, 2011, 08:32:12 AM »
Hey guys,

Some of you may know I recorded the clips for the BKP website, and I tracked dry DI signals alongside many of the clips in case there was any need for reamping. Since many people ask about the varying characteristics of the pickups of the range I realised, prompted by a thread on sevenstring.org, that those capable of reamping could try doing so with the DIs to see how they sound with their own tones. The easiest examples to use are the rhythm tracks from the "modern metal" clips, but if this proves popular I can bounce out some of the others too.

So, without further ado:
The DIs were captured through an Audient MiCO preamp/DI; I should stress that the recording process for these clips was fairly crazy (we did 200+ clips in 5 days), so apologies for any sloppy playing/editing/clipping you might encounter, though I don't think there is anything bad enough to hamper the comparison experience. Because of the manic nature of the clip sessions the DI levels varied quite a lot, so I have normalised the DIs to at least allow you to judge the relative compression characteristics. They are all .wavs exported at 44.1/24.

The guitar is a 80s Gibson Les Paul Custom, which is I guess what one might describe as medium-bright for an LP. There are two exceptions to this - the Aftermath is in my Blackmachine B2, and the Sinner is in a Fender Custom Shop Relic '62 Strat. Note there are a couple of lower output models in there too: the Riff Raff and Black Dog.

Aftermath

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Cold Sweat

Holy Diver

Miracle Man

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 09:20:42 AM »
1 word: Brilliant!

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 07:10:42 PM »
Weird. I cant hear them :( it makes me sad.
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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 07:16:29 PM »
Weird. I cant hear them :( it makes me sad.

I dont know if its my pc or what it is. Can you make them into mp3's instead?
Your music will never be as hard as this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfFrqhJwbhE
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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 08:52:24 PM »
The whole idea is that you use them for reamping not just listening to the DIs, so you really want them at as high a quality as possible. Try right-clicking the links and downloading the files instead of streaming them in your browser.

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 09:02:14 PM »
Cheers nolly.

This is a good resource (and unique as far as I know for any pickup maker/affiliated party to provide to customers) - any chance of a sticky in players for it? Shame for it to fall and be forgotten. Happy with my aftermaths at the moment, but you never know when it might come in handy :)

I'd even suggest putting them on the site with the clips, for prospective customers with reampers and/or vsts etc. (tim, if youre reading....?)

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 09:15:51 PM »
I'll get onto Tim about making it 'official'. I should probably export some of the other DIs too, maybe the hair metal and classic rock ones would be suitable

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 09:24:59 PM »
For some reason I suspect reamping capability is going to be far more prevelent among the metallers...

Why I have that impression I have no idea, but us of a heavier inclination are clearly the best test group

/Musical techno-bigotry :lol:

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2011, 09:59:44 PM »
That is a fair point I suppose!
Have you had a chance to try them out yet?

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2011, 10:17:05 PM »
Not yet dude, bookmarked for later.

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 10:57:54 PM »
I don't have a DI otherwise I'd run this through my amp SO FAST! 

Could I import the files into cubase and put the output from my soundcard into the input on my amp?


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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 11:08:05 PM »
You can reamp that way, but you won't get the best results without a dedicated reamp box.

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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 02:17:48 AM »
For some reason I suspect reamping capability is going to be far more prevelent among the metallers...

Why I have that impression I have no idea, but us of a heavier inclination are clearly the best test group

/Musical techno-bigotry :lol:


How dare you!  :evil:


(What's reamping?  :?  )
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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2011, 06:07:33 AM »
reamping is using recorded direct raw signal clips straight into a real amp and then recording it again in the regular way (with a microphone) or with any sort of direct recording, but after being processed by a preamp or simulator
the concept is not having to play it again, so you can decide which amps to use later or trying inumerous amps using the exact same recorded performance

this is quite common among producers, so they can try several amps or post-edit the entire recorded raw track without having the musician playing everything again
this is also very common on live  recordings
that's why all big bands sound so crystal clear and studio-like on live DVD's
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Re: DIs of 11 popular BKPs for reamping
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 10:51:47 AM »
Thanks Eric, I did sort of know what it is really, but I couldn't have explained it nearly so well!   :)

Never thought about them using it on live recordings, though.  Makes sense.
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
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