Fake Blackmachine for under 1000£

[nfe]

Yeah I agree with what Wez has said above. The headstock isn't on, and he really should have said no to that, especially, as Feline mentioned, when Blackmachine have no branding on the front of the guitar.

But other than that, it's fair enough.

[Sifu Ben]

Just before I got to Wez's post I was thinking "this is at least in part down to Blackmachine's waiting list".

[nfe]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

[HTH AMPS]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

its a nice place to be if you can sustain a business like that.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

its a nice place to be if you can sustain a business like that.

It does sound a bit like Dumble amp and Trainwreck amp style selling.......

[JDC]

I was watching a video on youtube with Doug talking about the copies, basically everything has been copied apart from chambering which is a secret he's keen to hold onto

[Dmoney]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

its a nice place to be if you can sustain a business like that.

It does sound a bit like Dumble amp and Trainwreck amp style selling.......

maybe in future those blackmachines will command dumble and trainwreck style prices! if so, hold onto that gitter NFE! lol

[jpfamps]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

its a nice place to be if you can sustain a business like that.

It does sound a bit like Dumble amp and Trainwreck amp style selling.......

The Dumble comparison is apt, however to be fair to Trainwreck, Ken Fischer never charged silly money for his amps. His production was limited firstly be the fact he was mainly earning a living doing repairs, and then in the last few years of his life by ill health, rather than by any desire to maintain exclusivity.

[dave_mc]

i imagine if this customer could have got doug to agree to a blackmachine build that is what he would have had instead

that'd be the way I'd look at it. I can appreciate, in fact even like, the fact that he's not massively expanding to maintain the quality, but at the same time if people want something like his guitars and are going to have to wait 3+ years (going by nfe's experience), if he's even still taking orders... it's hard to blame them.

I found it hard enough waiting the few months for my legra.

:)

[FELINEGUITARS]

Definitely. And there's not even been a waiting list for a couple years. You can't order one currently, he's going to be building what he likes and then offering the completed builds for sale.

its a nice place to be if you can sustain a business like that.

It does sound a bit like Dumble amp and Trainwreck amp style selling.......

The Dumble comparison is apt, however to be fair to Trainwreck, Ken Fischer never charged silly money for his amps. His production was limited firstly be the fact he was mainly earning a living doing repairs, and then in the last few years of his life by ill health, rather than by any desire to maintain exclusivity.

Thanks for the reminder on that Frank
I had read interviews with Ken Fisher and he said that he didn't ever see any of the money of his amps changing hands for inflated prices, and explained the ill health issues too (think it may have been in Dave Hunter's book)

[dave_mc]

^ yeah i think so, i'd read that before somewhere too (and i have several of dave hunter's books) :)