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Why Hate Metalcore?
« on: July 04, 2011, 12:21:29 AM »
Why do so many metalheads, particularly those who like the more extreme styles of metal, hate metalcore in particular?  I personally like a lot of it.  There is definitely a lot of horrible metalcore out there and a lot of it sounds the same, but you could say the same thing about any other subgenre of metal.  My least favorite subgenre of metal is Black Metal or any other Scandinavian Metal music similar or related to black metal.  I also dislike doom metal, power metal, and really hate symphonic metal.  However, there are definitely good songs in those subgenres, but in general they are shite to my ears. 
Some of my favorite metalcore songs include:
Six-All That Remains
Two Weeks-All That Remains (Fantastic guitar solo IMO)
This Calling-All That Remains
Unholy Confessions-Avenged Sevenfold
Rose of Sharyn-Killswitch Engage (This is the only song I like by KSE)
Anyways, I wanna hear from all you metalcore haters and understand what you guys think.
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 12:41:52 AM »
Not sure what the point of this thread is, certainly not when posted on this forum. Certainly not sure why you bother to ask why people dislike a genre then deride a bunch others?

Metalcore like Earth Crisis, Integrity, Converge and so on I've a lot of time for. Metalcore as it became later with a bunch of guys playing sanitised At The Gates covers I've far less time for.

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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 12:44:19 AM »
Different tastes in music.
Some people likes metalcore, others avantgarde acapella.


I like a few metalcore bands. I like some of Bury your dead's tracks. I like some of kse's too. but in general mallcore just bores me.


If you would call converge metalcore, then one of my fav bands are a metalcore band :P
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 08:22:05 AM »
Well, first of all it's no secret that metalheads are usually curmudgeons. Anything "the kids" like, they will dislike, and that is just how it is.

Nevertheless, while I do feel that attitude has no justification when it comes to hating undeniably talented pop musicians like Lady Gaga or Justin Timberlake simply for the fact that they are popular, I do feel it has quite a bit of justification when it comes to "Metalcore."

I for one really do like Killswitch Engage. They are a genuinely good band with kickass songwriting, and I'm pretty sure even the most diehard of haters will agree that they have a good load of merit to them. The issue is in reality, the clones. KsE are good, so that meant a whole legion of copycats came out of nowhere and starting clogging everything up. And as it usually is with copycats, the whole bloody lot of 'em were/are complete shite. Hence the hate.
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 10:00:20 AM »
Because everything music related with the term -core in it, is shite as far as i'm concerned.
 I know the bands try to make music, but to my ears it's utter cr@p. I don't like the song structures, i HATE the breakdown after breakdown after breakdown and i sure as hell don't like the screaming.. or the shoehorned melodic parts.. there's NOTHING about it that i find pleasing.
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 11:30:06 AM »
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 12:20:41 PM »
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 12:40:21 PM »
Man stuff like this is dumb. I personally have an aversion to most things with 'metal' in the title.
I don't think of Earth Crisis, Integ, or Converge as metalcore. They defo have a metal influence, but metalcore to me is an umbrella term for stuff I don't like. When things stop being hardcore. I mean, Leeway & Cro-Mags have a metal influence but I wouldn't call them metalcore. The stuff I'm not into is what sounds like watered down mid 90's hardcore, lacking all urgency just another sound that rock bands play. There isn't anything exciting about it. Now take some Bulldoze, Shattered Realm, NJ Bloodline, Mushmouth/Out To Win, Fury Of Five, Morning Again, Damnation AD, Indecision, Two By Four, Stigmata, Merauder, Irate, Red Eyed Devil... if you call that metalcore then I guess I like a bit of it but I don't like any of the bands mentioned at the top.
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 01:01:32 PM »
Well, I keep checking this thread, because it's bound to be entertaining...

... but I have not the slightest clue what you chaps is talking about :lol:

Over the weekend, I finally got round to finding out what Grand Funk Railroad were about in the early 70s - and I was very pleasantly surprised. Even in the early 80s people were telling me they were stodgy cr@p... It's taken me 30 years to get round to giving them a go.

I kind of regret not listening to them years earlier, but on the other hand, I wouldn't have had that "oh wow!" feeling of discovery this weekend. I'm, er, guessing that Grand Funk Railroad are not exactly metalcore maybe?

Anyway, I stand firmly in the "I do not hate metalcore" camp (wotever the f*** it might be! :lol:). I don't hate any sort of music. There's a bunch I don't want to listen to, yeah, but I can't say I've ever heard any music that I've hated.
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 01:22:54 PM »
I'm sure there was a thread on here once of people going on about how ALL hip hop is rubbish. Same old story, a bunch of people winge and come out with really opinionated responses, and then someone posts a clear reasonable view which is basically 'each to their own', everyone agrees and that is the end of it.

I don't like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViSZI6UJEUQ

I do like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCLq87nAcDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9IzkdNTo0 (this video is nuts)
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 01:26:58 PM »
Quote from: AndyR on July 04, 2011, 01:01:32 PM
Over the weekend, I finally got round to finding out what Grand Funk Railroad were about in the early 70s - and I was very pleasantly surprised. Even in the early 80s people were telling me they were stodgy cr@p... It's taken me 30 years to get round to giving them a go.

I'm not familiar with very much of their stuff, but I always thought the problem with what I have heard (many years ago) was lack of consistency - a couple of great tracks per album, but a big load of filler.  Then again, that was pretty common in the '70s, when bands made an album a year (maybe even two) - you'd expect a few duff songs.


Could we BE any more off-topic?  :lol: :lol:



Quote from: AndyR on July 04, 2011, 01:01:32 PM
I don't hate any sort of music. There's a bunch I don't want to listen to, yeah, but I can't say I've ever heard any music that I've hated.

Not even..... I dunno, Shabba Ranks?  :?


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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 01:39:33 PM »
what's wrong with shabba ranks?
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 01:41:31 PM »
I was just thinking that as well...

(Mind you, I'll have to find out what a "shabba ranks" might be before I reply in too much depth :lol:)
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2011, 01:46:36 PM »
Quote from: AndyR on July 04, 2011, 01:01:32 PM
I don't hate any sort of music. There's a bunch I don't want to listen to, yeah, but I can't say I've ever heard any music that I've hated.

Gloria Estefan. Can't stand "The Rhythm is Gonna Get You".
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Re: Why Hate Metalcore?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2011, 01:57:45 PM »
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