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Madsakre

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True Temperament - Detuning?
« on: July 24, 2011, 02:55:18 PM »
Hey im sitting here, wondering how a guitar with True Temperament fretwork would be when you detune it?

Should the fretwork be made specifically to your tuning, or would it always be the same pattern no matter which tuning you're in?
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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 05:07:48 PM »
You can tune down and/or change string gauges within sensible limits. A half step down works fine. The limitation on how low you can go before the intonation cr@ps out is most often the (plain) 3rd string - anything thicker than a 0.018" usually sounds horribly "plonky" at, or close to, concert pitch, but thinner ones can become too floppy (and difficult to intonate) when tuned down - and again, using a wound 3rd is not an option if you have a True Temperament neck designed for a plain 3rd string.

Its off the website, check the FAQ section. Hope that helps :)

Madsakre

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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 05:56:49 PM »
Hehe :D he needs to make a drop B with wound 3'rd string setup for me then xD
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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 08:07:38 AM »
Hehe :D he needs to make a drop B with wound 3'rd string setup for me then xD

That is gonna be very, very expensive.

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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 11:52:55 AM »
You're not seriously considdering this kind of a fretjob, are you?

This will give you problems and no sollutions. There's no such thing as perfect intonation, nor should you want to. Concert pianos, harmonicas and other such chord instruments are tuned by ear. They're not tuned digitally to the theoretical correct pitch in Hrz because the chords will sound horrible to the human ear.

I think these frets will pose problems when fretring certain chords and when you're trying to do extreme bends.

They claim these frets can be dressed but I wouldn't want to. Levelling won't be the problem but crowning them will. Crowning files don't go around bends. You'd have to crown them with a sanding stick or something. It will take forever.

This is a sollution to a problem that isn't really a problem. Like that automated self compensating, spring loaded bridge we saw a while ago.

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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 01:12:11 PM »
ah the evertune xD
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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 02:17:26 PM »
Or the Gibson Robot Series;

The stupendously moronic and superfluous answer to the question not even the biggest retard in the galaxy would ever ask.

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Re: True Temperament - Detuning?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 05:29:07 PM »
 :lol: :lol: Yeah. The Evertune. Was neat product so I posted it. Looked at mess though. I have to agree the TT frets look like bends would be uncontrollable on certain frets and that's enough right there to throw me off of em. Steve Vai has at least one axe with em, but he plays regular fretted guitars live. I think that says something in the vein of "expensive novelty." Fanned frets are probably going to appeal to you more, Mads. A little better intonation(but not perfect), much better string tension and cheaper. Kahler makes pieces to add to their trems so you can get a trem on fanned fretted instruments, if you like that sort of thing. I mean look at Roo's weapon. Considering just the basics of it, why go further?