weird news coverage of london tonight

[ToneMonkey]

Ever tried the tube with a pushchair? Fuggin nightmare.

[Elliot]

Biological is what people on the continent call organic

[Afghan Dave]

Expenditure on schools doesn't correlate to success in education.

yes it does.

Kazakhstan = Rank 23



UK = Rank 30

[Afghan Dave]

Then & Now... in sharp relief...   PDT_033 PDT_049

http://youtu.be/uCPGcNKBKwo

[FELINEGUITARS]

However, I don't think I would send my child to a Lewisham borough state school at present (I now live in Honor Oak Park) if I had the money to afford it - they are just too full of trouble and I think this is one of the fundamental problems in estates today is a lack of positive identity.  
More than that, the greater problem is not clever good kids (as teachers in bad schools often latch onto them) but disruptive 'average' kids who could do alot better with more attention. 

That is the reason my brother and his family moved from Honor Oak Park  to Steyning in Sussex - for the sake of their kids, so they could have a more "old fashioned" kind of childhood - like London in the 1960s/70s rather than be embroiled in estate gang culture from the age of 4 -or as soon as they were playing outside the house

[38thBeatle]

Someone at work showed me a picture of looters leaving a Poundland store. A Poundland Store!The whole episode was embarrassing enough for our nation without that making it worse.

[Afghan Dave]

We are a f**king international laughing stock.

Which I can't stand because the guys I know in the Army & Marines would make anyone humble.

F**K off with liberal excuses... try telling any of my military mates about them and see what you get.

[Transcend]

Someone at work showed me a picture of looters leaving a Poundland store. A Poundland Store!The whole episode was embarrassing enough for our nation without that making it worse.

Is that the one with the overweight woman that had stolen a multi pack of crisps?

That gave me both a laugh but made me think what the hell is the point...

[Dmoney]

they probably stole the crisps to deliberately annoy Afghan  PDT_001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp09Sdrw2W4

[shobet]

We are a f**king international laughing stock.

Which I can't stand because the guys I know in the Army & Marines would make anyone humble.

F**K off with liberal excuses... try telling any of my military mates about them and see what you get.

We are a f**king international laughing stock.

Which I can't stand because the guys I know in the Army & Marines would make anyone humble.

F**K off with liberal excuses... try telling any of my military mates about them and see what you get.

Is that army or marine commando as they are distinct forces and if you called one the other you'd probably lose teeth.

[plastercaster]

Expenditure on schools doesn't correlate to success in education.

yes it does.

Kazakhstan = Rank 23

UK = Rank 30

1=S. Korea
2=Finland
3=Hong Kong
4=Canada
5=New Zealand
6=Ireland
7=Australia
8=Liechtenstein
9=Poland
10=Sweden

international league table of reading and maths standards, based on test results in 2006.

Just because there are 4 exceptions (Kazakhstan, Cuba, couple in S. America) doesn't mean there isn't correlation.

If you seriously believe there is no correlation between quality of education and expenditure you're saying that education is independent of:
Class sizes
Teacher training
quality and amount of books
quality and amount of equipment
and the hours that children get taught between.

Cash input and attainment don't follow a perfectly linear relationship without exceptions. Of course they don't, because nothing in the real world does.

Anyone who's had a sniff of state education in the last decade knows that labour has done great things with it.

[Jonny]

Did you guys read about the soldier trying to sell a Gibson he got for £20? £1900 RRP. Apart from the morality did he really need the money, I thought the Armed Forces paid well for risking your neck. Plus he could've just waited until it all died down. Or did he research. What a plonker.

[Dmoney]

The armed forces are paid pretty unfairly considering the tasks they do.

this is an amusing read that has been doing the rounds...
http://nathanieltapley.com/2011/08/10/an-open-letter-to-david-camerons-parents/