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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 08:45:14 PM »
I'm not saying EMG's are bad pickups, but so many brands have launched low- to mediumbudget guitars with EMG's. Not to speak of Duncan Designed.
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 09:26:29 PM »
I'm not saying EMG's are bad pickups, but so many brands have launched low- to mediumbudget guitars with EMG's. Not to speak of Duncan Designed.

Its a  good way to achieve consistent good sounds.

EMG basically get in bed with all the manufacturers and whore their wares out cheaper than anyone else will.

Then theres the 7 string thing going on the same manufacturers but a different size to 90% of replacement pickups which makes more people end up using EMGs to avoid the hassle of changing them.

It also works the other way though some people refuse to buy them because of the non standard sized pickups

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 09:27:37 PM »
There is also the fact that pickup choices in new guitars generally boil down to 3 options

Custom pickups from the manufacturer which generally suck
EMG 81/60 81/85
SD JB/59

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 11:49:03 PM »
Yes, seems so. Maybe once you have BKP's, you are spoiled. For the time being I don't look at Dimarzio's etc.
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 01:10:13 AM »
I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 01:20:09 AM »
I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.

I don't think it'll ever catch on big-time, but there are some sellers on eBay doing this, albeit usually with used and/or slightly damaged guitars.

I know what you mean, though.  A lot of the time I not only replace pickups and electronics, I also change most of the hardware - straplocks, locking tuners, TonePros bridge and tailpiece studs, aluminium tailpiece.  It's hardly worth having the original parts in the first place!  :lol:
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2011, 01:58:04 AM »
I've seen some stripped out Gibsons and the like on eBay, myself. I noticed a horrific trend of pulling the neck off, too.
Buying used makes me nervous unless I can inspect it, first. Course- it's the only way I would ever buy a Gibson.
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2011, 03:58:53 AM »
I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.

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I'd happily buy guitars with no pickups in. Need everything else to get strings on to be able to check the quality/character of the acoustic sound of the guitar.

LTD are by far the worst for it in my experience; they will make danmed sure the guitar has a nice paintjob, often a marketable Name Player connection (if not a sig, a stripped down relative of one, or the same basic design and people connect the dots themselves) and usually EMGs (I like EMGs a lot, no problem there)...meanwhile the woods and construction are more often than not complete garbage (again, in my experience, but its of dozens of the bar-stewards, of which only a handfull have been acceptable instruments, fewer still genuinely good)

Ibanez are among the best; the pickups are cr@p and the hardware is usually good (if sometimes not; edge III for example) but I see a much greater proportion on them that are well made from good woods, and so have the basis laid for a good guitar. People often complain about the pickups, but I couldnt care less, and like it in fact: I've never even left in the pickups that came in the guitar when I got customs and chose the bloody things in the first place.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2011, 04:03:32 PM »
I've said it before, but Gibson QC has always been really hit or miss, even back in Elder Days when Gibson guitars were crafted by actual live Elves.

Still, that inconsistency is a large part of their charm for me.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 12:48:20 PM »
Philly

Your guitars sound like Trigger's broom....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbha4XclSMU

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 01:00:36 PM »
There is a hint of that, I must admit!  :lol:
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