Your advice for Gibson SG standard pickup replacement for metal ?

[xtomix]

Hi there!

I'm new to BKP Pu's.

I want to change the bridge pickup of my 2010 Gibson SG standard. I really love the feel and the playing of this guitar but was disappointed with the bridge PU. The stock one isn't biting enough to my liking, no bass, too thin, not percussive with triplets riffing or soloing. I'm trying to describe as much as I can what I don't like about this PU..

I'm tuned down to C and are looking for mainly metal tones : from swedish death metal (At the Gates, In Flames), black metal (Dissection, Immortal, Dimmu Borgir), classical heavy metal (Paradise Lost, Maiden, Metallica, Slayer) to contemporary metalcore bands (Heaven Shall Burn, Black Daliha Murder, August Burns Red, After the Burial). And I'm enjoying some punk-hardcore and some classic high gain rock sounds once in a while.

The sound I'm looking after has to be tight, percussive, overdriven with lots of harmonics, well defined.

Amps : Engl Screamer, Mesa Single Rectifier.

Tim advised me an Aftermath set. It seems like a good idea to me.

I wanted to have other player's experiences about the match between Aftermath and SG's if there are...

Any other suggestions ? NailBomb ? Miracle Man ? WarPig ?

Thanks !

Thomas

[Jonny]

First off, great taste in bands; HSB, TBDM, ABR, ATB, all on my playlist!

I don't have a mahogany guitar (nor an SG) with Aftermaths but I'm here just to say you have a great taste in bands but if Tim suggests Aftermaths I wouldn't doubt him. He does make them after all.

:D

[ericsabbath]

I'd go with the c-bomb or the miracle man

I don't think I would enjoy the aftermath in a SG
too much mids and too tight bass for an already middy and sharp sounding guitar

[Nolly]

I would agree with Tim's suggestion of the Aftermath

[Alex]

I had a Miracle Man in my SG first and it was a match in heaven. The many mids of the SG work perfectly with the MM, which adds low end chunk and a better high end than the stock pickups.

[xtomix]

Thank you for your advice ! I was hoping to get feedback from someone who has already put Aftermaths in a SG.

I'm getting confident with the choice of aftermaths. I think I'll be ok with lots of mids. I don't like my sound too scooped.

BTW I'm so happy to have read the SG-related posts on the BKP forum. I didn't know before that it could be tough to find a good pickup match for SG's...

A few more questions :
- On some older posts the combination between Nailbomb and SG was discouraged, do you know why ?
- Do Miracle Man and Aftermath have similar output power ?

Thanks !

[Transcend]

Apparently mid output pickups have a tendancy to mush up in SG's i have no idea why but Tim has told me this himself.

And i would consider the NB to be in the higher section of the mid output pickups as far as BKP are concerned.

The miracle man is a bit hotter than the Aftermath and has a touch more aggression & grind but is slightly less tight

[BigB]

- On some older posts the combination between Nailbomb and SG was discouraged, do you know why ?

Can't tell, as I personnaly find it to work JustFine(tm) on my own SG (and from the feedbacks I got so far from a few educated guys, it seems they did like it too).

[Grim]

Hi there!

I'm new to BKP Pu's.

I want to change the bridge pickup of my 2010 Gibson SG standard. I really love the feel and the playing of this guitar but was disappointed with the bridge PU. The stock one isn't biting enough to my liking, no bass, too thin, not percussive with triplets riffing or soloing. I'm trying to describe as much as I can what I don't like about this PU..

I'm tuned down to C and are looking for mainly metal tones : from swedish death metal (At the Gates, In Flames), black metal (Dissection, Immortal, Dimmu Borgir), classical heavy metal (Paradise Lost, Maiden, Metallica, Slayer) to contemporary metalcore bands (Heaven Shall Burn, Black Daliha Murder, August Burns Red, After the Burial). And I'm enjoying some punk-hardcore and some classic high gain rock sounds once in a while.

The sound I'm looking after has to be tight, percussive, overdriven with lots of harmonics, well defined.

Amps : Engl Screamer, Mesa Single Rectifier.

Tim advised me an Aftermath set. It seems like a good idea to me.

I wanted to have other player's experiences about the match between Aftermath and SG's if there are...

Any other suggestions ? NailBomb ? Miracle Man ? WarPig ?

Thanks !

Thomas

Aftermath sounds really nice in an SG. Miracle Man works too, but I find it a touch dark.

[ericsabbath]

A few more questions :
- On some older posts the combination between Nailbomb and SG was discouraged, do you know why ?
- Do Miracle Man and Aftermath have similar output power ?

alnico nailbomb, not the ceramic
all ceramic models are known for working well in SG's
Tim doesn't recommend mid output alnico models for SG's
I didn't listen to him and installed a holy diver that I had in 3 les pauls
it was absolutely great in all 3 different sounding les pauls, but it was dark, muffled and dead sounding on the sg, although it retained the lead tone qualities

yeah the miracle man has about the same output as the aftermath, but the aftermath sounds a bit more grinding, due to the midrange overload and triple ceramic magnet arrangement
but I'd still vote for the MM or C-bomb

[Madsakre]

Miracle man.. great for swedish dm

[Alex]

The other big metal pickup for SGs should obviously be an Alnico Warpig, given it's Iommi-esque appeal. But the MM works nice because of the big low end AND the cutting, bright treble - it gives SGs what they often lack.

[xtomix]

What do you exactly mean by "grinding" sounding ?

Eric says the aftermath sourds more grinding and ToeKnee says the miracle man sounds more grinding... It got me confused...

[DaveCarter]

Tim doesn't recommend mid output alnico models for SG's
I didn't listen to him and installed a holy diver that I had in 3 les pauls
it was absolutely great in all 3 different sounding les pauls, but it was dark, muffled and dead sounding on the sg, although it retained the lead tone qualities

Im quite surprised that there was such a dramatic difference between the Les Pauls and the SG. The specs of both guitars are generally pretty close, is the tonal difference basically down to the maple top?

[Frank666]

It depends on your definition of grinding, annoying answer I know but some like midish grind, some don't. I would take Tim's recommendation on this one, aftermaths sound kinda scary in sgs in my experience