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HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« on: October 13, 2011, 02:22:42 PM »
I'm building a guitar with an alder body, mahogany neck and rosewood fretboard and I was wondering what HSS combinations would be good for this.  My first thought was an Alnico V Nailbomb and 2 Trilogy suites, but being a humbucker guy up until this point, single coils are a bit of a mystery to me.  Any help is appreciated.

Matt
« Last Edit: October 13, 2011, 06:17:31 PM by 9X3 »

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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 02:31:34 PM »
Well for petrucci tones, the Ceramic Nailbomb nails it perfectly. But judging by your other influences, a ceramic may not be your thing. Certainly an alnico Nailbomb like you said, would fit the bill perfectly, but I say get a Rebel Yell. it's perfect for the styles you play. very versatile. He's a description below which I've took from another post of mine:

I've just been recommended the Rebel Yell/VHII. When I asked Tim about playing mostly Instrumental music, with Prog Metal, he recommended me the Rebel Yell/VHII (or the Nailbomb in the bridge if I need more output). I spoke to Nolly regarding the Rebel Yell vs. Nailbomb. This is what he said:

"Funnily enough the Rebel Yell is very closely related to the Nailbomb in design, and there is certainly a "family resemblance". The RY is brighter, more upper mid focussed and tighter than the Nailbomb, and also has a cleaner edge to the notes where the Nailbomb is more saturated and grinding. The Rebel Yell/VHII combination is my main pickup choice for the progressive metal I play with my band. I basically wanted a bridge pickup that had the low end control of a ceramic pickup, but without the associated glassy/hard treble. The Rebel Yell does a great job of that, plus also has an excellent dynamic response that works very nicely for the lower-gain lead and rhythm tones I sometimes use.

So I came to the decision that regarding output, it isn't really worth the extra benefits that the Rebel Yell provides. For Instrumental music, the 'upper-mid focus' and the 'cleaner edge' to the notes, really sounds appealing to really get that solo sound to really be heard. If your still worrying about output, just look at the DC of the Aftermath, and that's meant to be the most 'metal' pick of the BKP range.


And for the music you play, there is a lot of Instrumentation required to your playing, as you probably know from listening to Dream Theater.
For the Single Coils, get the Trilogy Suites :)

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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 03:50:01 PM »
Agree to the Rebel Yell bridge recommendation.

BKP offers a HSS "set menue" of Rebel Yell and Slowhands which appear to be more suited for Pink Floyd tones than the Trilogy Suite, which however would be closer to the Dream Theater tones.

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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 11:55:36 PM »
If the guitar is quite bright by itself the RY could be on the bright side. I would be personally more tempted by the Holy Diver together with the Slowhands.
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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 03:04:37 AM »
+1 for Holdiver  :D

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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 07:08:25 PM »
Thanks for the input everyone!

I spoke with Tim and Nolly and I think I've settled on a Holydiver bridge and a Sinner neck.  I decided to drop the middle single coil, mainly because I'm not a fan of the 5 way lever switches. 

I'm going to wire it so that the Holydiver goes to an ON/On mini switch for series/parallel switching, then to the 3 way toggle switch. 

I'll post clips as soon as everything is finished!

Thanks again!

Matt
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 07:44:03 PM by 9X3 »

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Re: HSS combinations for Cynic/Dream Theater/Pink Floyd style music
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 08:06:13 PM »
Cheers! The Sinner is not Gilmour, but will deliver a lot of oomphh.
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