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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2011, 01:24:01 PM »
I interpreted "don't get" as "don't get why anybody could think they're any good"
For me, it's "don't get what all the fuss is about". 
You worded it better than me :)
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2011, 01:47:39 PM »
Janick Gers? = Just Sloppy..
Eric Johnson?
Shawn Lane?


Off the top of my head..  :?
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2011, 01:54:24 PM »
The one we all get? Django Reinhardt?

Robert Johnson?

I think if we all "agreed" on those, at least half of us would be just pretending to know what we're talking about.  I haven't heard enough of their music to genuinely feel qualified to comment.

Robert Johnson was the other one that crossed my mind.

Chet Atkins too.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2011, 02:00:19 PM »
Yep, that's the wording I'd use: "don't get what all the fuss is about"


Philly - my two "examples" were the ones off the top of my head that I could say I "don't get what all the fuss is about".

But then when I think about them, it turns out I do get what all the fuss is about :lol:
(but could the people who want to make a fuss, kindly make this fuss in the next room, and mebbe keep the noise down, I'll join you in a bit if I feel like it :lol:)

So although there are potentially many guitarists that I don't get, I don't actually want to say out loud that I don't get them!

Here's a good example - Fernando mentioned the Allman Brothers earlier. Now I only know about them up until Duane dying, but I was in the same boat as Fernando - Lynyrd Skynyrd were fab, their heroes were the Allman Brothers, so I must like them. In 1983 or so I got "Live at the Fillmore East" - I'd never been so bored in all my life! I struggled on, and got into some of the tracks, but it was still take-it-or-leave-it.

But sometime in the last 30 odd-years, it grew on me (without me even listening to it!). A couple of years ago I bought the remastered and expanded (:o!) CD version. I just felt I ought to own it, I didn't think I'd listen to it much...  But now it's my favourite live album and has been ever since I got the CDs home.

Up until a couple of years ago I could have said "I don't get all the fuss about Duane Allman". But I kind of did really, all along. (I think I actually prefer Dicky Betts though :lol:)

Out of the two I mentioned earlier, it's Slash that I most don't get the point, ask me for a single guitarist who I don't get, it's Slash... but on the other hand I'd much rather listen to Slash playing than Joe Bonamassa - a chap who I do kind of get the point of... :roll: go figure! :lol:
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2011, 02:24:14 PM »
The 1) edge (i'd like to vote out bono as well but he sings i think)
       2) clapton
        3) page....... this is half hearted as i love LZ's music and jp's guitaring just think he's way overated (if anyone
                            can show some live footage where he plays well i'm interested)
          4) paul weller   

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2011, 02:35:59 PM »
The one we all get? Django Reinhardt?

Robert Johnson?

I think if we all "agreed" on those, at least half of us would be just pretending to know what we're talking about.  I haven't heard enough of their music to genuinely feel qualified to comment.

Can't say I get Robert Johnson myself, I love acoustic blues and I really appreciate how influential he's been on a huge chunk of the music I enjoy and play myself ,but I can't say I've really enjoyed listening to him on anything more than a historical level.

Blind Blake and Lonnie Johnson on the otherhand I simply adore but thats going off topic
also  +∞ for Django
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #66 on: October 25, 2011, 03:07:04 PM »
ALL the shredders. Musical onanism to me.

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #67 on: October 25, 2011, 03:25:56 PM »
most shredders i listen to, on solo albums at least, do nothing for me. generally does just sound like a basic riffy track, with the occasional obligatory odd time or key change, with endless widdly soloing over the top.  the exceptions, for me, are Steve Vai and Paul Gilbert.  maybe Mattias Ia Eklundh.  Vai in particular i really enjoy.  i think his music has a lot more thought involved than the vast majority of shredders.  Gilbert brings a humour and loosness to his music that is very appealing. Eklundh is just nuts!  couldn't listen to him all day, but in reasonable doses, he's quite entertaining.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2011, 03:58:07 PM »
Even the good ones sound like they're trying to cram too many notes in to me.

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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2011, 04:36:56 PM »
The 1st 1s that come to mind for me are Jeff Beck, David Gilmour and The Edge.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2011, 04:47:55 PM »
I love Maiden, obviously.. But I do wonder about Dave Murray sometimes - is he really good?
Murray is one of my major influences, so yeah, I'd say he's good. Gers, on the other hand... :shock:

OK, I'll take that.

I don't like Murray's lead work, but his riffs are great indeed.

Agree with Gers.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2011, 05:17:51 PM »
Here's a good example - Fernando mentioned the Allman Brothers earlier. Now I only know about them up until Duane dying, but I was in the same boat as Fernando - Lynyrd Skynyrd were fab, their heroes were the Allman Brothers, so I must like them. In 1983 or so I got "Live at the Fillmore East" - I'd never been so bored in all my life! I struggled on, and got into some of the tracks, but it was still take-it-or-leave-it.

But sometime in the last 30 odd-years, it grew on me (without me even listening to it!). A couple of years ago I bought the remastered and expanded (:o!) CD version. I just felt I ought to own it, I didn't think I'd listen to it much...  But now it's my favourite live album and has been ever since I got the CDs home.

The Allman Brothers Band is a very good example for this thread.  I too like Lynyrd Skynyrd (and Molly Hatchet!  :lol: ), so, many years ago, I too bought "Live at the Fillmore East".  I haven't listened to it many times since, but unlike you I still haven't reached the point where I "get" it.  When I listen to it, it literally seems to pass by without making any impression on me at all.  Sitting here now, I honestly can't remember anything about it (apart from "Whipping Post", but that's more due to the Zappa version!)


Yeah...... continuing that thought, some music seems to be just too incomprehensible to sink into my brain at all - Birds of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra is another example which springs to mind.  I've got the CD, but I can't for the life of me think what it sounds like.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2011, 05:50:07 PM »
I too find the Allman's Live At Fillmore East seriously underwhelming. But, I do like their studio albums.

As for guitarists we all "get" (or like)... I think it'll be impossible to find one. I can appreciate Django's skill on the instrument, but I can't listen to it. At all.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2011, 06:33:01 PM »
I bought Molly Hatchet long time ago. LP's are somewhere in the cellar. All albumcovers looked the same. I remember I liked Flirtin with Disaster, though it's no more than typical straightforward southern rock.
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Re: Guitarists you just don't get!
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2011, 07:27:27 PM »
Maybe I'm under-analysing this (which is a change :oops: :lol: ), but I can't think of anyone whose playing I like/can appreciate, but whose music I don't really like. If I like their playing I normally like their music, and vice-versa.

Of course I'm probably just forgetting someone really obvious :lol: