Guitarists you just don't get!

[AndyR]

I dunno, those suits he wore in the mid-late 80s (and mebbe for longer? I don't know), they took a lot of getting over for me. And that floppsy hairstyle. :lol:

But yeah, he's always done what he needs/wants to do himself, whether it was the "right" or "wrong" thing to do for a career. He's managed to keep doing that, come out the other end alive, and create some extremely popular music while he was doing it. I'm assuming he's not short of a bob or two neither? All in all, not bad... :D

[Tellboy]

but I think it's maturity, and nothing wrong with that.

True.... comes too soon for some of us  :( :(

By the way I don't think Beck has a wig maker as this shot definitely shows him with a Prince William patch on top :lol:  ..... more likely lots of shares in Grecian 2000  :D

http://www.calgarysun.com/2011/10/25/jeff-beck-a-master-class-of-guitar-tech

Notice in the review the comment "While there were moments when technicality and slickness overshadowed the gritty blues guitar sound that initially made him famous, Beck was nevertheless thrilling to watch." .... echoes of what was said above.

[Frank]

:lol:

Ah well, he seems to have sorted himself out nowadays.

That's one thing I do admire about Clapton, nothing really to do with music, is the way he's "grown up" over the years - he's put the rock star lifestyle behind him, doesn't try to dress like he's 30 years younger, no hairpieces or plastic surgery  :lol: . I suppose it could be considered boring, but I think it's maturity, and nothing wrong with that.

Let's all remember this classic piece of Clapton maturity shall we?

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight?

EDIT: I'm not even going to post that rant here, read it yourself.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton

But apparently he was drunk and can't remember saying it. So that's ok.

[shobet]

He must hate it every time he spends time at his Caribbean estate...

[Frank]

I think Clapton is the ultimate guitarist I don't get. Not his music - I mean, I get the pentatonic predictability just fine. What I don't get is his unapologetic racism and contempt for the race of people whose music he copied.

That I do not get. And I don't want to get.

[AndyR]

Now that is interesting, I hadn't heard about that, Frank.

I nearly posted "but I've heard he's possibly not a very pleasant person" earlier. This came mainly from knowing someone who met him in the late 80s. But then I thought, "well, unknown git accosting star... not sure I'd always be able to be a pleasant person in that situation" - so I didn't post it. They were adamant though, thoroughly put off him by meeting him.

Whether or not they knew about this? I dunno...

Still, it's a bit shocking. I really didn't know about that. I'm kind of amazed he survived it. I know it was "different" in 1976, but even so... kind of puts a completely different slant on the "white man's blues" comments.

[choucas09]

I hadn't heard about that either and, speaking as probably the only person on here that likes him, I feel shocked too. That is pretty unforgivable.

[Frank]

... and then he had the balls to appear at the Nelson Mandela concert.

[MrBump]

I hadn't heard about any of that stuff either!!!

[Frank]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Racism#History

[Philly Q]

:lol:

Ah well, he seems to have sorted himself out nowadays.

That's one thing I do admire about Clapton, nothing really to do with music, is the way he's "grown up" over the years - he's put the rock star lifestyle behind him, doesn't try to dress like he's 30 years younger, no hairpieces or plastic surgery  :lol: . I suppose it could be considered boring, but I think it's maturity, and nothing wrong with that.

Let's all remember this classic piece of Clapton maturity shall we?

Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight?

EDIT: I'm not even going to post that rant here, read it yourself.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton

But apparently he was drunk and can't remember saying it. So that's ok.

OK, I'll take your cheap shot about the "maturity" - it was 35 years ago and precedes what I was talking about.  But I've never heard about that before, and I am shocked.

There's no defence for what he said.  I'm surprised it hasn't affected his subsequent career more, to be honest.  No-one could do something similar now and "survive" it.

Reminds me of something I was told at University - and I have no idea if it's true or not - that ELO used to donate money to the National Front.  :?

[AndyR]

ELO?

Next you'll be telling me that Father Christmas runs the KKK.

[Afghan Dave]

 :o I honestly have never heard any of that rant before, I'm amazed.  :o

His love of both black music and black musicians seems totally sincere. I can understand a hard line stance on immigration. Nothing wrong there, but the language he used is indefensible. 

Really shocking & drunk or not, he should have appologised.

Now, if he were talking about Pikeys, well they're scum.... :P

[Frank]

There were all kinds of rumours about National Front donations in the 1970s. I remember being told that at least three different cigarette manufacturers donated 5p from every pack price to the NF.

I believed those about as much as I believed the Marc Almond stomach pump rumour. Meaning I believed it at the time but now it sounds very much like urban legend.

[Afghan Dave]

Yeah, 10p from the sale of every Greggs pasty goes to The Church of Scientolgy. TRUE!