Does anyone else think what this Luthier told me is a pile of rubbish?

[Nephilim]

If you don't think he's up to the job, just move on and find another luthier.  There are several out there to choose from.......

Yh I have. I'm very much considering Feline :)

[MDV]

Well I'm sure I know the bloke you mean and yes, his guitars look like first-class work. Personally I've always believed that the pickups and amp are there to amplify the acoustic sound of the string and obviously that is strongly determined by the resonance of the body and neck woods.

This.

Yeah, I cant build a guitar, but I do believe thats bollocks.

[PhilKing]

It's rubbish - a lot of the Strat sound is from the 25.5" scale length and the woods.  I have a 25.5" Les Paul and the strings give a much more open sound but I know it sounds nothing like a Strat.  I also have a ton of Strats and LP's and they all sound different acoustically because of the woods.  They all sustain differently and have their own idiosyncrasies.  Pickups do make a difference to the sound but if the original acoustic sound is cr@p then the guitar will never sound great.   I would say that his problem is that he uses EMG's and probably a high gain amp.  Then you are not hearing the guitar at all and they will all sound the same.

[MDV]

I would say that his problem is that he uses EMG's and probably a high gain amp.  Then you are not hearing the guitar at all and they will all sound the same.

Beg to differ, most forcefully, on both counts :)

[FELINEGUITARS]

I would say that his problem is that he uses EMG's and probably a high gain amp.  Then you are not hearing the guitar at all and they will all sound the same.

Beg to differ, most forcefully, on both counts :)

There's only one way to prove it........



Okay - I'm being silly.....but still feel that everything counts in varying amounts
YMMV!

[MDV]

:lol:

I need a high gain amp costume...oh ffs, why didnt I think of that BEFORE halloween, I could have dresesd up as a Bugera.

FWIW, I also think that every single thing on and in a guitar affects the sound. Right down to the finish. Thats arguably quite a big one actually (you know Doug of BM dont you Jonathan? :)). I'd regurgitate what you said about EMGs but it seems redundant, and add that high gain applications can in my experience increase differences between guitars and reveal aspects of the sound, in the low and high end especially, that clean and light OD dont, or not nearly as readily.

[Frank]

I built a lap steel guitar for a joke once, it was a strat pickup nailed onto a piece of Ikea chipboard shelving.

It didn't sound very good.

[Madsakre]

http://www.daemonessguitars.co.uk/

He makes the nicest axes i've seen to date. Dylan also seems like a bloke i would like to know.
Nolly has a couple of his axes, and praises them much..
Give him a look :)

[Matt77]

If you don't think he's up to the job, just move on and find another luthier.  There are several out there to choose from.......

Yh I have. I'm very much considering Feline :)

I'm in Stockport and have had good and bad experiences with several of the local guys in Manc
PM if you want to know more.
You are welcome to try my Feline Lion

[Matt77]

I would say that his problem is that he uses EMG's and probably a high gain amp.  Then you are not hearing the guitar at all and they will all sound the same.

Beg to differ, most forcefully, on both counts :)

If it's the guy I'm thinking of, he plays jazz and uses a Mesa Nomad

[Philly Q]

Looking at his website (if it is the right guy) he doesn't seem to use EMGs all that extensively.

His guitars look nicely made, but the designs don't appeal to me much.  For a guy who apparently doesn't think timber matters, he certainly seems to use some nice bits of wood...

[Nephilim]

Looking at his website (if it is the right guy) he doesn't seem to use EMGs all that extensively.

His guitars look nicely made, but the designs don't appeal to me much.  For a guy who apparently doesn't think timber matters, he certainly seems to use some nice bits of wood...

But I guess there's a difference between how a piece of wood looks, and how a piece of wood sounds. I have a beautiful Dining Room table that would look great as a guitar. Although it would probably sound like a plank, lol. When I spoke to the guy on the fone, he was always mentioning EMGS (81, 85, 89, 60, S, SA). But it's when he said he doesn't think the wood has much impact on the tone, its mostly the scale length and pickups that matters, is when I though "Nope, not for me!" He may make me my perfect guitar looks wise. But how do I know if he knows the difference between a good sounding wood and a bad sounding, if he can't tell much difference between 2 completely different types of wood, lol?

[Philly Q]

Fair enough.  There's no point getting a guitar built by someone if you don't trust their input, it's a major investment so you need to feel you're "reading from the same page", as it were.

[Roobubba]

I need a high gain amp costume...oh ffs, why didnt I think of that BEFORE halloween, I could have dresesd up as a Bugera.

Save that one up for Valentine's Day, Mark :D