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Sancho

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Still undecided... Les Paul
« on: November 22, 2011, 01:57:24 PM »
Like I've said elsewhere, the Nailbombs in my Les Paul Traditional are a bit too modern for my tastes.
Quick reminder : I play old school heavy metal and hard rock.
I've been pondering replacements, and I've got three candidates left.

Cold Sweat. This seems to be the go-to pickup for Les Pauls in my style.
Afraid it may lack some warmth. Not sure about the midrange scoop.

Emerald. A balanced, hotter than vintage pickup that seems to capture classic Les Paul tone.
Afraid it may lack punch and bottom end.

Black Dog. This one looks like it will preserve most of the classic Les Paul character.
Afraid it may be too dark and lack punch.

So... one last time if you don't mind... Recommendations.

Please keep it limited to these three, I don't need more confusion ;)
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 04:03:37 PM »
Dont overlook VH2 - hits hard in all frequency ranges

Either that or Cold Sweat or Miracle Man

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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 04:19:33 PM »
Of these three I only know the Cold Sweat, and I can highly recommend it. For me it has enough warmth and mids but the guitar it is in has lots of both.

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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 06:01:02 PM »
Dont overlook VH2 - hits hard in all frequency ranges

I can only agree with this. Mine's sitting in ash HSS-strat though. It rocks!
But back to the three you selected: lots of users stated the CS is not sterile or harsh.
The BD might be on the middy/middy side, and you have to love the percussive touch of Emeralds. They are great to brighten up a dark sounding Les Paul.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2011, 06:03:48 PM by Telerocker »
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2011, 07:40:06 AM »
The mid peak is indeed what makes me doubt the BD.

The guitar it's going into is pretty dark sounding, so the Emerald might be what I'm looking for.
I'm trying to find a balance between vintage Les Paul tone and something with that bit more edge to make riffs really stand out.
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2011, 10:06:53 AM »
VHII or riff raff
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2011, 10:46:54 AM »
How much difference is there sonically between the Riff Raff and the Emerald? From their tone chart they seem pretty similar.
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 05:25:15 PM »
didn't try the emerald, but from clips, reviews and specs, I'd expect the riff raff to be punchier on the bass, more open and less mid heavy than the emerald
but, that's pure speculation from me
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 10:14:50 PM »
What about the Rebel Yell? Seems like it's often described as THE hard rock pickup. Sorry for throwing in a new suggestion  :)
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2011, 11:08:01 AM »
I have decided. Don't shoot me, but I'm going to try something else.
Booo!! Hiss!!

I know :oops:
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2011, 11:15:49 AM »
I have decided. Don't shoot me, but I'm going to try something else.
Booo!! Hiss!!

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You mean.... a non BKP?  :o

Might as well tell us what it is....
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2011, 11:28:06 AM »
I've gotten some very strong recommendations for the Suhr Doug Aldrich, from three guys whose opinion I completely trust (and who all have personal experience with the pickup)
So I went for a set of those...
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2011, 11:32:05 AM »
I think there's been some discussion of those on the forum - including one or two people who've replaced them with BKPs.  :wink:
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2011, 12:17:30 PM »
you won't be needing my suggestion of riff raffs then ;)
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Re: Still undecided... Les Paul
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2011, 12:40:15 PM »
I think there's been some discussion of those on the forum - including one or two people who've replaced them with BKPs.  :wink:

You're correct: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=22955.0

I have a Suhr Aldrich set but have not had them in a guitar where I used BKPs. 

Cheers Stephan