Author Topic: Why don't Mass-Producers use True-Bypass? (Read 6688 times)

indysmith · « **on:** January 31, 2006, 09:05:11 PM »

It can't be any more expensive. surely it'd cost more to have a suck-tone circuit, rather than just to cut the effect circuit out of the equation when not in use?
I figure there must be a reason or it though. Are the switches for it more expensive or something?
Thanks for any answers

cdwillis · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2006, 09:06:15 PM »

I don't get it either. If it's just a switch how much more can it cost than the regular switch...

HJM · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2006, 09:21:02 PM »

About 50 times.......the fet switching in many mass produced pedals you could buy the parts for less than 50p - much less in quantity probably closer to 10p. True Bypass switches even to the trade are at least £3..multiply that across say half a million pedals a year!

indysmith · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2006, 09:23:09 PM »

guh they should just jack up the prices £3 - more people would DEFINATELY buy them, and you know it.

tewboss · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2006, 11:06:52 PM »

EH do use true-bypass in most of their current range of pedals. True bypass isn't always better - read the Pete Cornish article on his website.

willo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:08:34 AM »

true, it can be very handy to have a BOSS pedal early in your setup as a buffer.

also, the switches used on Digitech and Boss (the only two mass-producers who don't use true-bypass that I can think of), are too different physically from true-bypass switches for them to work without a total revamping of the casing. What I mean is that for a truebypass switch to be installed in a boss pedal, you'd need to totally alter the casing, wouldn't you?

_tom_ · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:18:18 AM »

I think Dunlop should do it to their Crybaby line. I'd be happy to pay the extra £3 for a wah that comes stock with True Bypass...

The amazing Phil · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2006, 03:23:15 AM »

Big companies are all about cost cutting sadly.

tewboss · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2006, 01:27:19 AM »

One of the problems with EH pedals (and I'm sure if applies to other pedals) with true bypass is that you get a volume drop when you activate the pedal. Obviously overdrive/fuzz/distortion pedals can be adjusted so that this isn't an issue. My EH Small Stone was modified so that the volume didn't drop get the switch was on. Modifying a Boss pedal for true bypass is more trouble than its worth due to labour costs. Having a loop that activates the pedal is a much better idea which is what Pete Cornish does.

rahnooo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:51:58 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

I think Dunlop should do it to their Crybaby line. I'd be happy to pay the extra £3 for a wah that comes stock with True Bypass...

My Morley Bad Horsie Wah is true bypass. Built like a Volvo clutch pedal too. :twisted:

_tom_ · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2006, 04:17:20 PM »

Quote from: rahnooo

Quote from: _tom_
I think Dunlop should do it to their Crybaby line. I'd be happy to pay the extra £3 for a wah that comes stock with True Bypass...

My Morley Bad Horsie Wah is true bypass. Built like a Volvo clutch pedal too. :twisted:

Is that one of the spring loaded ones then? Or am I missing the whole clutch joke :?

rahnooo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2006, 05:55:43 PM »

It returns to the "fully-up" position when you take your foot off it, if thats what you mean by spring loaded? It's switchless so no great horrible clunk like you can get from activating Cry baby type wahs. Which means it's great for lifting individual notes in a solo or whatever, although you have to keep your foot on it for static-position filter effects.

The clutch pedal thing was more referring to the build quality. It's rather large, and very very solid. Would take some abuse to even scratch the thing :)

Ratrod · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2006, 06:02:50 PM »

If it was built like a Volvo it would have an ergonomic design, computer controlled anti skidding, ABS and airbags.

If guitar fx are being built like a Mercedes or BMW, I don't want it. The electronics will probably start an argument with you.

rahnooo · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2006, 09:20:36 PM »

Quote from: Ratrod

If it was built like a Volvo it would have an ergonomic design, computer controlled anti skidding, ABS and airbags.

Do you remember Volvo's before they smoothed out the design and tried to make them look pretty? Volvos in the 80's looked big and clunky and no frills. The only crumple zones were other peoples cars. Thats how my wah pedal looks. ;)

Ratrod · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2006, 09:28:56 PM »

Quote from: rahnooo

The only crumple zones were other peoples cars.

:lol: :lol: :lol: