Another Warpig question

[Contrition.Josh]

I have looked through loads and loads of threads asking about the differences between the ceramic and alnicoV magnets for the Warpigs, but i am still very unsure on which to pick. Based on the descriptions and the soundclips on the site, i personally prefer the Ceramic pickup based on its high-end bite on the distortion setting. My biggest problem however is that clean tones are insanely important to me as well, and i hear that the ceramic doesn't clean up anywhere as good as the alnicoV, and opinions on this?

It is meant to be a replacement for an EMG 81tw, in a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 FR, tuned down to Drop C. I'm playing in a metal band, looking to record our first full-length album within the coming months, so i'm looking to get the best possible sound i can get.

[p4vl]

I just use low output neck pickups and rely on those for my cleans.  Might want to look into getting a PAF style neck humbucker.  Or a coil tap and a chorus. 

[Dr.Pain]

For drop C and that guitar I'd look at an aftermath.  But email the guys at BK and they will steer you in the right direction.

I jumped in and got a Warpig for my 7 string and it didn't work out.  I only ever kept it tuned to B but the bass was too much.  Good if you want to knock a house down.  If I had emailed them first I'd have an aftermath but we all make mistakes.

I now this isn't answering questions but the BK guys will.  They are great.

[Loomer]

As some people know, I am insanely prejudiced, judgemental and arrogant. Pretty much your prime example of an elitist tw@t. I'm gonna put that to use now:

- Your name is Josh, appaerently.
- You play a Schecter Hellraiser
- Said guitar is tuned to Drop C, the tuning used predominantly by various modern metalcore bands. Well, not that modern anymore if the Stuffyouwillhate blog is to be believed, but you get the idea.

These afmittedly very vague clues point towards that you're a lad from the US (or Canada) playing the sort of entry-level Metalcore that Kids These Days love so much. From then on, I can conclude the War Pig will not be what you're looking for. I think you should go with what Dr. Pain says and get an Aftermath instead. After all, it is the pickup that the Kids These Days love the most, it seems.

Now, make no mistake I LOVE my War Pigs, but I'm a grumpy old fart who plays noisy, scuzzy and filthy music (we don't even have any mosh-parts or breakdowns!) that no one remotely "with the times" would be caught dead listening to.

If you're the sort of bloke I've pegged you to be, then the Aftermath is your thing.

[WhiteRam]

Welcome to the world of BKP joshlgrant, hope your musical journey throughout the years is enjoyable and doesn't turn you into a woulda/coulda/shoulda frustrated pompous old man.

You posted sincerely looking at what I've found to be a wonderous pickup designer and company...I own 10 BKP's and desire more.  Further, no matter where you're from, you have a right to be responded to in mannerly fashion as you have presented yourself accordingly.

If you are tuning to drop C or C Standard, my opinion for your guitar and music is the Aftermath set.  You'll have options of split coil &/or parallel wiring for the neck AM, which gives you 3 tonal options for clean.  Contacting BKP for recommendations is a sound idea, good luck. :)

Ps. Wisdom assesses a man by his soul, not what piece of land he stands on.  If you have a love for pickups that explode in rich 3D overwhelming harmonics of glory dripping out your speakers...BKP's are the kings.

[Kiichi]

I just use low output neck pickups and rely on those for my cleans.  Might want to look into getting a PAF style neck humbucker.  Or a coil tap and a chorus. 

+1
VII or holydiver neck anyone?

[Dr.Pain]

Loomer rino charges in swinging his guitar like a bat.  Awesome  :)

My neck pups just plug holes so don't know.

[Contrition.Josh]

Haha just to reply you Loomer, its always fun to get some pre-assessments based on the first impressions i might give :p Firstly i wont deny that we have some Metalcore influences, and have been labelled as such by a few who have tried to categorize us, but we have many influences including Groove and Thrash, and loads of influences that spand outside Metal territory entirely. Lamb of God is the basic style we have been going for so far, but have recently begun evolving into more complex and exciting stuff (check out the danish band, Interbeing, i personally think they're awesome). But have influences that range from the pop-metal-ish Avenged Sevenfold, all the way to Muse who have amazing melodic content, and nice compositions. And we're a Danish band by the way, my dad is just Australian, hence the english name (:

Going back to the pickups, it should be said that i intend on getting a Sustainiac in the Neck position, so i am mostly looking for a bridge pickup that has amazing cleans as well as great riffing and lead capabilities! (:  I've checked out the soundclips on the site, and they left me a bit hesitant, there was more note clarity, but maybe missing a bit of punch? i dont know..

[Loomer]

No amount of bad words can possibly describe how virulently I hate the Interbeing. They're like Mnemic's retarded little brother, as I see it, and they leave me completely and utterly cold as well.

But that's another discussion. This is neither the time, nor place to discuss how the Danish scene is a $%&#ing joke, and how sorry I am for you to be caught up in this cesspool of shite hand-me-down riffs and overly pro-tooled production jobs. Nevertheless, my basic guess turned out to be true, so I'm sticking with the Aftermath for you. Just wire it up for a split and your cleans will be lovely as well. That's one of the good things about BKP's; Their clean sounds are remarkably good, even on the high gain bar-stewards. I mean, my War Pigs sound good clean without the split, so go for it.

[Madsakre]

No amount of bad words can possibly describe how virulently I hate the Interbeing. They're like Mnemic's retarded little brother, as I see it, and they leave me completely and utterly cold as well.

But that's another discussion. This is neither the time, nor place to discuss how the Danish scene is a $%&#ing joke, and how sorry I am for you to be caught up in this cesspool of shitee hand-me-down riffs and overly pro-tooled production jobs. Nevertheless, my basic guess turned out to be true, so I'm sticking with the Aftermath for you. Just wire it up for a split and your cleans will be lovely as well. That's one of the good things about BKP's; Their clean sounds are remarkably good, even on the high gain bar-stewards. I mean, my War Pigs sound good clean without the split, so go for it.

+1

[Kiichi]

No amount of bad words can possibly describe how virulently I hate the Interbeing. They're like Mnemic's retarded little brother, as I see it, and they leave me completely and utterly cold as well.

But that's another discussion. This is neither the time, nor place to discuss how the Danish scene is a $%&#ing joke, and how sorry I am for you to be caught up in this cesspool of shitee hand-me-down riffs and overly pro-tooled production jobs. Nevertheless, my basic guess turned out to be true, so I'm sticking with the Aftermath for you. Just wire it up for a split and your cleans will be lovely as well. That's one of the good things about BKP's; Their clean sounds are remarkably good, even on the high gain bar-stewards. I mean, my War Pigs sound good clean without the split, so go for it.

Minus the tone I think there is truth there, at least regarding the pickups.
You just must forgive him for the verbal diarrea.

[MAJ Meadows SF]

This thread is so exciting! Intense; I like it.

I enjoy the cleans from the A-Pig in my 88' Kramer Pacer, but I use them sparingly. I got the pickup off ebay, and threw it in there for Amon Amarth and In Flames style covers. It does those admirably, but I wound up being inspired to play more grindcore on that ax, a la Pig Destroyer, Nasum, and Rotten Sound. Loud, nasty, huge and boomy bass, snarling mids, and did I say loud?

I feel if you are sticking with contemporary humbuckers then you need to split the coils for "amazing" cleans, no matter what model almost.  Aftermath's are THE choice for modern metal of the technical nature, but a Rebel Yell might be a good option giving a lot of organic voice, and it's extremely versatile: riffs, leads, cleans- in all styles.