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Eyes Wide Shut

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A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« on: February 06, 2012, 02:24:58 PM »
I'm pretty unfamiliar with Warmoth, but have discovered it through this forum, so i thought I may as well ask on here. I obviously know that importing to UK will add up to about 25% added at customs, but I have nother question about the prices.

With the hardware, would you recommend getting it from Warmoth, or buying in the UK? I'm just curious as a Wilkinson Gold Trem is $104 from Warmoth, but £120-140 in the UK. I'm just worried I'm missing something here beause Warmoth seems extremely cheap.

Cheers,

P.S. Excuse all the threads, I just have loads of answers and found this forum to have decent people with decent answers, as to the other forums where arguments end up happening over something that is completely different to the original thread haha.

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 02:49:45 PM »
I buy a lot from Warmoth, but never hardware - don't know why really, I guess they don't stock a lot of my personal favourite hardware items, but also Warmoth's shipping charges are high so I'd only get hardware if I was ordering something else at the same time.

If they have what you want, I don't see any reason not to order, there's no "catch".

I think gwEm has bought some hardware from Warmoth in the past.
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 03:19:39 PM »
As Philly says, I've had a couple of bits of Warmoth brand hardware off them.

It was fairly decent, but I think Fender USA stuff is alot better.

edit: Just read the whole thing and saw you wanted a Wilkinson trem. Not tried one myself, but that have a good rep. Got one of their tele bridges and it was nice. As Philly says, Warmoth shipping charges are a bit on the high side. Maybe find a reputable ebay seller?
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 03:31:11 PM »
I'd order a guitar as well, so would be getting a bulk package. I've also been looking at USACG if anyone has heard/tried them?

Thanks for the quick responses btw. Really appreciated

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 04:52:29 PM »
I'd order a guitar as well, so would be getting a bulk package. I've also been looking at USACG if anyone has heard/tried them?

There's an occasional poster on here, Copperhead, who speaks highly of USACG.

Personally I like Warmoth because I can buy things from the showcase and see actual pictures and - very importantly for me - body weights.  And (touch wood) I've had no bad experiences with them, everything has turned up just as described and very well made.

USACG's website is less user-friendly, but apparently the guy (Tommy?) is good to deal with by phone.  Me personally, I'm not really a phone person!  :lol:
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 05:50:21 PM »
Would you recommend a slimmer neck since I have smaller hands? As in the 1 5/8", or would you recommend the 1 11/16" style?

Also what do you make of the neck contours? There's only 2 which catch my eye (Standard Thin/Wizard) and wondered how the compare.

Also with having small hands, would you recommend a neck conversion to 24 3/4"?

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 06:15:35 PM »
Hard to say, what guitars do you have at the moment, for reference?

I don't have big hands either, but personally I prefer big(ish) necks.  My favourite is the '59 Roundback and I usually get the 1-11/16" nut width.  Don't mind 1-5/8" either, but I wouldn't go to 1-3/4".

You're looking at the two smallest neck shapes, I find both the Wizard and Standard Thin too skinny, but as a rough guide the Standard Thin is pretty similar to a new Fender American Standard, the Wizard is - I assume - similar to an Ibanez Wizard!  Standard Thin is Warmoth's biggest seller, they have a lot more of those in the showcase than any other size.

For scale length, I don't think you need to worry about the size of your hands when comparing 24-3/4" versus 25-1/2".  The former is Gibson, the latter is Fender - and they make most of their necks to the Fender scale length so again you'll get more choice at 25-1/2".
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 06:22:56 PM »
I'd probably go for a Custom Design if I can't find anything.

Another good question I have, which has really left me wondering is -

You have the C-shape neck, and the U-Shape necks. How would one compare to the other if both had the exact same depth at the 1st & 12th fret? Do people pick a certain shape for a certain reason?

Also is U-shaped the same as D-shaped?

Thanks for answering my question :)

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 06:27:57 PM »
i quite like the Fender 'modern C' profile.

philly's right in that the standad thin is similar, but i do think the standard thin might be a bit thinner than 'modern C'. i've not done any measurements - just going on feel
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 06:54:00 PM »
philly's right in that the standad thin is similar, but i do think the standard thin might be a bit thinner than 'modern C'. i've not done any measurements - just going on feel

Yeah, I think you're probably right there.

You have the C-shape neck, and the U-Shape necks. How would one compare to the other if both had the exact same depth at the 1st & 12th fret? Do people pick a certain shape for a certain reason?

Also is U-shaped the same as D-shaped?

OK, this is a bit tricky!  Different people probably have different ideas of what those descriptions mean....

To me, a C shape is a perfectly rounded shape, like a cross-section of a circle (maybe slightly squashed into an ellipse!  :lol: ) - there's not much of a "shoulder" where the neck meets the fretboard.

U shape is also rounded, but a bit deeper and "straighter" at the sides, so it's more like a 90-degree angle where it meets the fretboard, more of a shoulder.

D shape - to my way of thinking - is kind of like a shallow U or a squashed C, straight at the sides and tending to be flatter at the back, so it doesn't really feel so rounded, more "squarish".

I found this which is a pretty good illustration of neck shapes (as I see them):



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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 07:16:03 PM »
Thanks for that. I guess I'll just have to try a Fender Neck and compare it to a Wizard at the same time.

Thanks for your help anyways.

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 08:19:22 PM »
remember that you'll have to pay import duty if you import from the US

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2012, 08:56:40 PM »
remember that you'll have to pay import duty if you import from the US

Yh I mentioned this in the first post. It's something around 25%, am I right?

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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 10:57:00 PM »
remember that you'll have to pay import duty if you import from the US

Yh I mentioned this in the first post. It's something around 25%, am I right?

Yeah, 20% VAT plus a bit of import duty and an admin fee - 25% is about right.
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Re: A couple questions regarding Warmoth prices!
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 12:48:26 AM »
The Warmoth Wizard profile is the same as the Wizard 1, which AFAIK isn't available on any current Ibanez model. It's a shallow C whereas modern Ibanez necks are a shallow U.
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