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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 10:34:04 PM »
He originally said hes tried using boosts but they cut too much lows and add too much mids.

I can actually agree with this the quickrod does not agree with 90% of boosts.

He couldn't of said it better! :crazy2:^

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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 11:40:44 PM »
try an eq pedal - will allow you to tune the boost to exactly how you want it
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 11:58:13 PM »
^ that'd be worth a try, too. :)

He couldn't of said it better! ^^^

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He originally said hes tried using boosts but they cut too much lows and add too much mids.

I can actually agree with this the quickrod does not agree with 90% of boosts.

Yeah, a tubescreamer does, but that just means you get something which isn't based on a tubescreamer (which admittedly can be quite a task :lol: )

I use a V1 dano transparent od with my laney gh50L (which i'm guessing isn't a billion miles from a quickrod). it's a timmy clone, though they're discontinued. But there are a fair few transparent ods available, i'd just get one of those. :? I find a similar thing with a tubescreamer with my laney- for some things i like it, but for some things it's too much.

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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2012, 12:00:15 AM »
As a fellow QR owner I've found that the amp is very picky about what boosts it does and doesn't like infront of it.

The only 1 I've been anywhere near happy with is an MI Audio Boost N' Buff set just on the verge of being a Treblebooster from a full range booster. I do also quite like an SHO with it, as suggested by Toe-Knee earlier, but haven't tested it as much as I have the MI Audio pedal so can't comment much on that. I'll try and play with that combo more tomorrow and hopefully post back.

1 thing that may be causing your problem is that the QR is a very tight and clear amp, you can hear every note in every chord even under high gain. BKPs are also very clear sounding. It could just be that you're actually hearing the actual sounds of the guitar instead of a wall of gain or mush you may hear with other amps. I found this to be the case when playing with some other guitarists. They thought I had a low gain tone just because they could actually hear the notes in the chords I was playing instead of the wall of noise they had from using a DS1 on full gain  :lol:
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2012, 12:47:05 AM »
yeah that's maybe so

isn't an 81 pretty bright, though? i mean i'm not sure that's helping either. which goes back to what i said regarding not using a boost... you don't have very many options regarding what pickups you can use if you need maximum output

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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2012, 12:48:05 AM »
yeah that's maybe so

isn't an 81 pretty bright, though? i mean i'm not sure that's helping either. which goes back to what i said regarding not using a boost... you don't have very many options regarding what pickups you can use if you need maximum output

An 81 can be bright but in certain guitars they can also pack a fairly big low end and have the highs rolled off.
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2012, 01:06:13 AM »
yeah that's maybe so

isn't an 81 pretty bright, though? i mean i'm not sure that's helping either. which goes back to what i said regarding not using a boost... you don't have very many options regarding what pickups you can use if you need maximum output

I have an 81 in the bridge of an LTD Eclipse and don't find it to be overly bright.

Guess that's all down to the guitar in question though.
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 01:44:49 AM »
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 08:24:38 AM »
He originally said hes tried using boosts but they cut too much lows and add too much mids.

I can actually agree with this the quickrod does not agree with 90% of boosts.

He couldn't of said it better! :crazy2:^

 :lol: That´s the point
try an eq pedal - will allow you to tune the boost to exactly how you want it

Yeah..I have older Boss GE-7 so I´m gona try it tonight..It may works as ad some low´s and cut some upper freq´s..

yeah that's maybe so

isn't an 81 pretty bright, though? i mean i'm not sure that's helping either. which goes back to what i said regarding not using a boost... you don't have very many options regarding what pickups you can use if you need maximum output

An 81 can be bright but in certain guitars they can also pack a fairly big low end and have the highs rolled off.

I have 81 in other all mahagony viper and there it´s perfect combo but this one is brigh as hell..Bright pickup+bright guitar+bright amp= :shock:
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2012, 10:11:38 AM »
In that case a boost that doesn't cut the lows and boost the highs would be best.
I'm not an expert (i.e. haven't done extensive comparisons), but the major reason I use the T-Rex Michael Angelo Overdrive is because I feel it doesn't have that Tubescreamer curve, but is a lot more neutral.
I also like the Digitech Bad Monkey and Digitech Hardwire CM-2 Overdrive, because their dual EQ lets you keep the low end as you like it.
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2012, 08:05:41 PM »
I have an 81 in the bridge of an LTD Eclipse and don't find it to be overly bright.

Guess that's all down to the guitar in question though.

yeah. i mean i have one in a jackson and i'd say it's on the bright side of things

i guess i'm just concerned that going for a very specific pickup, while discounting boosts because only very specific ones work, doesn't seem particularly logical. I mean... I've never tried a QR (would love to, but they're pretty rare here). Maybe they really do hate boosts. But if you can find one that will work (and from the sounds of this thread, they do exist) that might make more sense than trying to do it with a pickup. I'm also concerned that trying to get a BKP for what he wants might not be the best idea, either. If the tone's not compressed enough, an EMG is a lot more compressed than the BKPs I've tried (which admittedly isn't many, but it's not like i've only tried the mule, i mean i have a MM). as brow said they're pretty clear-sounding. If the QR is too (and from what i've heard, it is) you might be trying to persuade unsuitable gear to do what you want. You might be on a hiding to nothing, kinda thing.

that's kinda all i'm saying :)

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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2012, 08:08:19 PM »
He isnt wanting more compression.

He just basically wants a bit more bite/snarl or whatever you want to call it.

Just that little bit extra.

I wanted a bit more than certain guitars were giving me so i dropped some Neodymium pickups in and it got it exactly where i needed without sacrificing clarity or being ridiculously hot
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »
try an eq pedal - will allow you to tune the boost to exactly how you want it

Yeah..I have older Boss GE-7 so I´m gona try it tonight..It may works as ad some low´s and cut some upper freq´s..

if it works out, theres some mods you can do to reduce the noise
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2012, 12:19:07 AM »
the ibanez ts9dx is a good alternative to the regular non 'bullchic' overdrives
the plus mode doesn't cut the low end, so the upper mids feel less spikey and it sounds a lot fuller than the regular ts9 mode
but a clean booster should work for you
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Re: pup for getting more saturation on Splawn QR
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 06:58:27 PM »
He isnt wanting more compression.

He just basically wants a bit more bite/snarl or whatever you want to call it.

Just that little bit extra.

I wanted a bit more than certain guitars were giving me so i dropped some Neodymium pickups in and it got it exactly where i needed without sacrificing clarity or being ridiculously hot

saturation is compression, surely?