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AndyR

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Nail in pipe
« on: March 10, 2012, 06:58:17 PM »
ARSE!!!

I was getting ready to post a "Yeeha, I'm in!!" thread about the new place when a minor disaster struck this morning.

We've been in just over a week. We had to get the place rewired which kind of put the decorating back a bit. But I managed to paint the bedroom and my music room.

Today the sparkies were back to finish off a few things and fill the holes in the ceilings in the receptions (we had the dodgy downlights removed - they showed me the old pots they pulled, the fittings were all melted!!).

Meanwhile, I was upstairs reseating the floor boards in my music room. I'd just banged them all in, and was, er, "tuning" them for optimum performance(!). I found one in the corner resonating when I tapped it, so I thought I'd just bang one or two more nails into it before I cover it all with hardboard and then carpet tiles. I banged the nails in and started tidying up, ready for the trip down the shed to get the hardboard.

But there was this funny noise that somehow didn't seem connected to the security light that was being fitted on the other side of the wall at that moment.

"Hmm, that radiator's never sounded like that before" I thought...

Then I realised it sounded like trickling water. I ripped the board up and found that the very last nail had pierced the f-ing pipe. We all had a good laugh at the water coming down the wall downstairs. Luckily it wasn't too much

So I've spent the rest of the day putting a temporary fix in (pipe clamp). Not sure it's going to hold though - looks like I've got to get me a pipe slice and a compression coupler, and learn how to drain the central heating system!!!

So my music room is not going to be ready when I go back to work on Monday... curses.... (and Mrs R's room is therefore still full of boxed and bagged music kit!! :lol:)
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 07:43:15 PM »
Great story but sorry to hear it all the same! Hope it is all sorted without too much hastle.
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 10:21:49 PM »

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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 11:27:57 PM »
the new place sounds exciting andy! i'm sorry to hear about the set back, but i guess its pretty minor in the end, although a pain in the arse as you say :(

roughly whereabouts are you living now?
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 03:06:43 AM »
As far as I'm concerned, if you know how to fix it, it was never broken in the first place. Good call on the compression fitting. Torches can be bad news in an enclosed space depending on what angle you can get and what's on the other side of that wall/ceiling.

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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 07:42:30 AM »
If you're anything like me Andy, you would have crumpled to your knees at that point, screaming to the Gods "why me???"

Does sound like a cool place!  I have a music room, although the wife keeps calling it "the spare bedroom" or somesuch nonsense.
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 10:19:13 AM »
If you're anything like me Andy, you would have crumpled to your knees at that point, screaming to the Gods "why me???"

Does sound like a cool place!  I have a music room, although the wife keeps calling it "the spare bedroom" or somesuch nonsense.

I had a music room once. It is now a bedroom.  :lol:
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 10:40:34 AM »
My music room is my living room  :lol:

Bad luck on the pipe, but at least you spotted it early.

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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2012, 11:22:24 AM »
Sorry to learn that. I was called last night by the missus who said the light switch in the kitchen wouldn't go off and was crackling & buzzing. I had to rush home and deal with the crisis & return to band rehearsal. I was moaning aboiut having to replace the switch today- your story makes me feel better!
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 12:41:54 PM »
Yeah, "music room" is possibly overstating it :lol:. It's actually the 3rd bedroom and is therefore going to be a bit on the cramped side. It's destined to be the "recording" room where I can just walk in and flick a bunch of switches, rather than what I used to have to do in the old place - get a load of stuff out, set it up, etc, etc, before I could do anything. I won't be able to dance around much in the new room - probably won't even fit two musicians at once when it's all set up.

I have got an amp and a couple of guitars out in the living room now, just been having a bit of a blow :D. Seeing as it's huge - two receptions knocked into one - and has bare boards throughout (recently uncovered by the rewiring, and as yet un-sanded/cleaned), it feels very much like it used to feel like playing on a stage. You even get the "guitar lead covered in krud" effect when you come to coil it up again :lol:.

The pipe's a bit of a bummer but not the end of the world. The temporary clamp appears to have stabilised, the old lagging round the pipe seems to be drying out. But the system's still slowly losing pressure, so I think I will have to do a proper repair. I'm going to monitor it for a bit rather than rush out, get the stuff, and start cutting pipes - the missus is away at the moment and I don't want to start the mayhem without another pair of hands/eyes/ears. It's also just possible that the pressure dropping is an existing leak elsewhere and that we actually need a plumber/service-engineer on the system earlier rather than later. Meanwhile, I've worked out that I can proceed with the rest of the floor - and therefore "complete" the room - as long as I leave that particular bit of underfloor area easily accessible for the moment.

Gwem - we're just south of Streatham Vale. Loads quieter and more restful than where we were in Tooting. I've got the telly and washing machine on, and I can still hear birds outside, but no traffic at all - almost feels like we're in the country or at the sea-side :D


On the diy/etc front, its amazing what I've discovered about myself in the last few weeks. I've spent years renting and never bothered doing anything, so I was kind of fearing a whole load of maintenance/repair stuff, having to find people, etc. But I've found I'm capable of doing a lot more myself. If you'd said to me a few weeks ago that I'd burst a pipe, have it "secured" in a few hours, and have found out how to fix it properly myself, I'd have laughed at you. The electricians have been a big help, actually. I was around for a lot of the time and, in return for keeping them supplied with real coffee, I was able to pick their brains about all sorts of decorating. I don't really fear anything now - I can see me doing less music-making for a while though! :lol:
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 08:26:36 PM »
ARSE!!!

Not sure it's going to hold though - looks like I've got to get me a pipe slice and a compression coupler, and learn how to drain the central heating system!!!

you could use a pipe freezer and do it super quick. draining the system will require you to refill it with anti-sludge juice.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/pipe-freezing-kit-220ml/13369
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 09:19:47 PM by Modular1 »

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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 12:19:11 AM »
Sorry to hear about this, Andy, hope you get it sorted out soon!


Water can do horrible things.

Leanne, one of my colleagues in work, had a workman from Sky (I think) putting in new cabling up in the loft.  The guy trod on a water pipe which cracked, so he tried to stop it by wrapping his jumper round it....!  :roll:

Obviously this didn't work..... by the time he confessed what had happened the tank was busy emptying itself and the entire house was flooded.  They've had to move out for six months so everything can be dried out then repaired (although in fact this process hasn't even started even though the accident was a month ago!).  Nearly all their possessions have been taken away too.

To make matters even worse, Leanne's son is severely disabled so the house had been fitted out with all sorts of specialised equipment.  And when trying to find temporary accommodation they had to be within easy reach of his school - so now they're stuck in a totally unsuitable, tiny little one-bedroom place for six months.

Let's hope the insurance comes through!
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 12:38:18 AM »
Philly, tell her to check her own Buildings and contents policy as they are likely to have cover for alternative accommodation. This will pay for them to move to something suitable. The cover isn't unlimited but is ofetn enough to help out- obviously I am assuming they have insurance. Although this is the fault of the Sky fitter, there is a time and a place for pursuing a claim against him/his employers, my advice would always be to claim under your own policy as they have a duty of care to you and the damage, in this instance, is normally one of the basic perils. The Insurers of the Sky fitter have no direct relationship with your colleague and will consider her a Third Party and won't necessarily be in any particular hurry ( they might respond quickly but often they don't).
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 04:58:33 AM »
I was going to suggest a pipe freeze too.

When I used to do Carpet Fitting years ago the customers used to go around banging their floorboards down and used to go through their pipes sometimes. I went through a couple of pipes myself too. One was a gas pipe and the woman in the house got into a panick and went to light a fag! I had to knock the lighter out of her hand.
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Re: Nail in pipe
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 04:39:00 PM »
That pipe freeze sounds like not a bad idea :D

The bugger is that I'd have to freeze on both sides of the nail hole. And as it's right by the wall, I'd have to do it in the next room... and I've just today secured the boards there and sanded ready for varnishing! :lol:

Meanwhile, the temporary fix has held successfully - dry as a bone, and we've had the heating operating for a week with no issues. So I'm nowhere near in the trouble this Leanne is in, sounds like a nightmare...

Yep, Johnny, I was the typical "customer banging the floorboards down" :lol:. I was very aware of electrics because of what we'd just been doing. They'd even said to me "don't worry, they're all below the joists" - so I wasn't on my guard... even though I'd actually SEEN the pipe-work for myself! (Not in this particular location though, I might add)

After we'd finished falling around laughing (me in a nervous/p1ssed-off way), the electricians said "we've all done it, I went through a gas pipe the other week - didn't show up on the metal detector..."
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