Minimum Booze Pricing

[HTH AMPS]

Are we gonna end up with loads of moonshiners? - I do hope so  :lol:

The price increases do take the piss though for the people who go out for a few social beers once/twice a month (i.e. me).  The binge drinking problem is not a pricing issue, its a social/cultural issue and people who go out every weekend to get blasted will do so anyway (we've all been there and you generally grow out of it in your 30s). 

So, who's gonna vote the Tories and Lib Dems back in next time since they're clearly doing such a better job ??!?!?!?!?  :roll:

[Toe-Knee]

Are we gonna end up with loads of moonshiners? - I do hope so  :lol:

The price increases do take the piss though for the people who go out for a few social beers once/twice a month (i.e. me).  The binge drinking problem is not a pricing issue, its a social/cultural issue and people who go out every weekend to get blasted will do so anyway (we've all been there and you generally grow out of it in your 30s). 

So, who's gonna vote the Tories and Lib Dems back in next time since they're clearly doing such a better job ??!?!?!?!?  :roll:

I grew out of it around 23 :D

And i never voted for them in the first place as i knew it would end up like this

[dave_mc]

Are we gonna end up with loads of moonshiners? - I do hope so  :lol:

The price increases do take the piss though for the people who go out for a few social beers once/twice a month (i.e. me).  The binge drinking problem is not a pricing issue, its a social/cultural issue and people who go out every weekend to get blasted will do so anyway (we've all been there and you generally grow out of it in your 30s).  

So, who's gonna vote the Tories and Lib Dems back in next time since they're clearly doing such a better job ??!?!?!?!?  :roll:

i agree with your point, but don't act like everyone's the same. I never went out and got blasted every weekend. I don't much give a shite if people do (as long as they don't beat me up or throw up over my car or something- far as i'm concerned people can do what they like as long as they're not hurting others, as long as they afford me the same courtesy), but don't act like it's a problem for which everyone is equally to blame.

it's like the recession, "oh, everyone was living too high on the never-never, we're all to blame".

Nah, plenty of people weren't.

[Roobubba]

Are we gonna end up with loads of moonshiners? - I do hope so  :lol:

The price increases do take the piss though for the people who go out for a few social beers once/twice a month (i.e. me).  The binge drinking problem is not a pricing issue, its a social/cultural issue and people who go out every weekend to get blasted will do so anyway (we've all been there and you generally grow out of it in your 30s). 

So, who's gonna vote the Tories and Lib Dems back in next time since they're clearly doing such a better job ??!?!?!?!?  :roll:

Are you really going to tell me you drink Tenants Extra or White Lightning on your occasional once/twice a month social beer outings??

[nfe]

It's not only those that will go up in price.

Though for the record, I do drink white cider once or twice a month.

[Roobubba]

It is only those that fall below the minimum pricing that will have to go up.
Free market pressures will keep the middle of the market from inflating by much. There's always a reseller out there looking to undercut others, that's just an inescapable and useful feature of capitalism.

[Philly Q]

It is only those that fall below the minimum pricing that will have to go up.
Free market pressures will keep the middle of the market from inflating by much. There's always a reseller out there looking to undercut others, that's just an inescapable and useful feature of capitalism.

What about the proposal that they're going to ban retailers from making bulk-discount or buy-one-get-one-free offers on booze? 

That would amount to a significant price increase for the middle of the market, assuming most of us look out for what's on special offer.

(Although there was some suggestion that there could be a legal challenge to such a ban)

[Afghan Dave]

The entire thing is legally dodgy!

The EU competition law seems to be the only one we choose to ignore in Britain..

The UK plow ahead with
1) Minimum prices
2) Plain Pack Cigs
3) VAT on hot food (the pasty tax was only to stop the chip shops from taking the Govt to the Euro courts)
4) Can't order cigs over the internet from another EU country where cheaper tax rates apply...

BUT... we must NEVER deport terrorists!

Exception can be made if you are a British citizen and wanted by the USA for anything even copyright crime that isn't even a crime in the UK or if an EU arrest warrant has been issues by a tin-pot judge in portugal...

[nfe]

It is only those that fall below the minimum pricing that will have to go up.
Free market pressures will keep the middle of the market from inflating by much. There's always a reseller out there looking to undercut others, that's just an inescapable and useful feature of capitalism.

It's only those below minimum pricing that will HAVE to go up. But when Tesco vodka is £16, you're not going to be able to buy Smirnof at £17.

Also, I think people grossly underestimate the amount of drink that falls below the minimum pricing. 45% of alcohol sold in the UK is below the 40p. It was as high as 60 or 70% for 50p. The majority of the lower cost branded beers (say Tennents, Carling etc) are sold at below 40p a unit in multipacks when on offer - which is near constantly - and they're not exactly low sellers.

It's been a LONG time since I've bought a multipack at over 40p a unit.

[Sailor Charon]

Are we gonna end up with loads of moonshiners? - I do hope so  :lol:

The price increases do take the piss though for the people who go out for a few social beers once/twice a month (i.e. me).  The binge drinking problem is not a pricing issue, its a social/cultural issue and people who go out every weekend to get blasted will do so anyway (we've all been there and you generally grow out of it in your 30s). 

So, who's gonna vote the Tories and Lib Dems back in next time since they're clearly doing such a better job ??!?!?!?!?  :roll:

Not binge drinking? depends if you believe the government or not. for me, as a woman, if i have three pints in one night, that's a binge according to them. i believe it's either four or five pints for men. That is not a lot of beer.
having sat in Casualty recently, three pints more than once a month is considered to be a problem according to the posters.
No, it isn't.

[Sifu Ben]

It's the threshold at which it can start to have negative health consequences, it's not saying that if you drink more than 6 units a night twice a month every month that you're an alcoholic, it's saying you should think about your drinking habits.

[Afghan Dave]

I am an adult.

I workout 5 times a week... HARD.

I get pi$$ed up once a week... HARD

(hopefully, closely followed by f**king someone.... HARD).

Could the Govt please leave me the f**k alone.  :x

[FredD]

+ 1

'cept I don't 'work out' quite as much as that !  8)

[Philly Q]

Hmmm, I work out 7 times a week.... fairly HARD.




I don't do any of the other stuff.




Am I missing out?  :?

[Sailor Charon]

It's the threshold at which it can start to have negative health consequences, it's not saying that if you drink more than 6 units a night twice a month every month that you're an alcoholic, it's saying you should think about your drinking habits.

There's a difference between being a heavy drinker and being an alcoholic. As for my drinking habits... they've varied over the years. From a pint or so every night when i was at university, to several pints twice a week, to three pints once a month. That's not including the times when I've not drunk anything.
You may say that some of those times were too much. The point is, I *can* stop after one pint. Or after two pints. And having a pint today doesn't make me want another tomorrow.
I'll repeat. 3 pints is *not* a binge. Sorry if that sounds defensive, but that can't be stated often enough.