Amp suggestions? 3 channel, separate eq-great Rhythm and Lead

[JacksonRR]

Input stage. Yeah that cap format is cr@p.

[witeter]

I dont know anything about electronics but does that mean that the Randall design in a bit lame? is Egnater better?
 i love the idea of the separate modules, even though i know i may get hooked at least id feel im getting close to the sounds i want within one amp.

[Dmoney]

nah ignore us. by 'cap', we mean the file format for some schematics we were trying to look at.

if you look at that picture, the sideways oval shape is a 12AX7 preamp valve, and where it says 1,2,3 joined together with the lines and black dots, that is a gain stage which is not being used for anything.

we were talking about the possibility of using that stage as a parallel triode, which is the kind of input stage you find in a VHT Deliverance or a Sommatone Outlaw. If you set it up right you get a 3dB reduction is noise at the input, there are also probably some tonal differences. There are a couple of values of parts on there you wouldn't see on V1 in many amps. Not marshalls or fenders etc anyway. Doesn't mean its bad at all, we are just being nerds. haha.

I see it has 12vDC heaters though. that is a nice touch, should keep it free of heater hum.

I don't know what differences there are between the egnater and randall stuff. it seems a little hard to find the egnater modular stuff.

[witeter]

Ah ok cool-no worries-im seriouly intrigued about the Randall amp and the customisation options-also heard a clip of the KH3 module and id happily take that as my rhythm tone no problem-just need to find somewhere where i can try the amp out-they dont seem to be as readily available over here it seems?

[Dmoney]

where are you based?

[witeter]

Cardiff-south wales-i know theres a randall dealer in Bristol ( absolute guitars) but they hardly have any amps in stock and certainly not the ones i wanna try out.

[Mr. Air]

+ 1 on the modular stuff. I got en Egnater MOD50 (only two channels), but it seriously rocks and whit the modding comunity spitting out excellent mods you got a hell of vareity.

You could also check out the Egnater Armageddon. I can't remember if it has seperate EQs for all three channels though.

Like Dave said earlier Diezel seems like a good possibility as well.

[witeter]

Yeah a Diezel would be great but its way out of my price range at the mo. The modular stuff really takes my fancy-and can u use egnater modules in the randall heads?

[FELINEGUITARS]

This thread has some schemes: http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=4324&highlight=rm100c
That input stage burns one triode. Must not have run that one by Steven Fryette first.  

Witeter, the pros are there's a huge amount of sounds to be had and the cons are there's a huge amount of sounds to be bought. You might develop a similar sickness as Feline. I wish I could find a thread with a pic of his rack(s). Very impressive collection.

It gets worse and worse I tell ya
I just scored an Egnater Mod50 from Catalyst77 so my amp life is complete (don't believe it).
I should do a gear shot - but I don't have a fish eye lens that will take it all in :D

[witeter]

Wuold you say an Egnater is superior to a Randall build qualitywise? what about the modules? are they better/worse

[FELINEGUITARS]

I think that the USA made heads and Rack preamps are a little better made  and the Egnater modules are very good

Having said that I have had no issues with the Randall modules -
Although I have recently changed a few coupling capacitors on a few of them for snobbish reasons
I put orange drop and Mallory equivalents in place of some of the ones that I thought were a bit cheap and yes it helped make the sound even better.

The modified modules are pretty out of this world though!

The Randall Mr Scary is freaking awesome and the Hammet KH2 and KH3 are good too
The newer Scott Ian ones are good too

[witeter]

Sounds great to me! so Feline-have you got the RM100? or do you use their preamp modules for recording,etc

[FELINEGUITARS]

No - I went down the Egnater M4 and Randall RM4 rack preamp route mainly as I just use at home & work so I team them up with power amps etc.

I did get a RM100 Lynch Box and 4x12 but it was huge (and LOUD) and not practical for home, so I sold it on
I have given in and gotten a trade on an Egnater Mod50 which I may wheel out for guitar shows etc

My workshop rack


This was the Lynchbox:

[witeter]

Mmmm tasty-the Lynchbox looks cool, thanks for the pics! i should see if anyone has a randall in my area i can try out

[Mr. Air]

Yeah a Diezel would be great but its way out of my price range at the mo. The modular stuff really takes my fancy-and can u use egnater modules in the randall heads?

You can use the Egnater modules with the Randall heads, but only the A channel on the dual Egnater modules. Egnater is soon doing a new limited run of the their modules and they'll upgrade them so you can choose between channel A and B if you use a Randall amp.

I haven't tried any stock Randall modules, but if you get in to the modular bizz I would suggest you to look for the modded stuff. The stock Egnater modules that I own are great, but you can even have these modded if you fancy.