Goverment bans the promotion/display of cigarettes.

[Attica!]

Just wondered what people think of this, and whether affects you? I think the government are sending the right message though. I mean if you're old enough and smoke, I'm sure you know what to get without looking at the cigarette display. Luckily, I quit smoking on Tuesday anyways :)

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/tobacco-promotion-crackdown-starts-1

[juansolo]

Honestly this f**ks me right off and I'm not even a smoker. Hypocritical bollocks. Quite happy to coin it in from the tax, but nooo, can't advertise it and can't smoke in pubs. Look just either ban it or allow it. This namby pamby 'don't smoke because it's bad' bullshitee while bleeding addicts dry really pisses me off. Ditch the BS and legalise cannabis while you're at it. Really don't see a problem with this. The economy could do with it and in moderation it's no more harmful than booze.

vote Juan! :)

[juansolo]

Also, while I'm ranting. When I was a kid we had chocolate cigarettes, loved those. When I was a teen Don Johnson even made it look cool. Tried it, it tasted like shite, so it wasn't for me. However I wouldn't take that choice away from anyone.

I'm just saying that advertising doesn't make you a smoker, you've got to like it... So the advertising ban is complete nonsense and is take funding away from sports I like that it used to sponsor. Damnit!

[FELINEGUITARS]

I agree about the hypocrisy....

If another product - lets say...... tomato ketchup - was found to have 1/10 of the harmful chemicals in that cigarettes have , the government would act swiftly to have it withdrawn from sale.

It'd be ripped from the shelves so fast it would be untrue.

It's all about the money for the politicians!

In a way it's not the tobacco that I dislike and hate - it's all the other 100+ additives , harmful and addictive chemicals that they lace them with.

I also enjoy there not being smoking at gigs - as I can actually breathe &  sing without losing my voice.
My clothes don't instantly smell rank from the smoke and I haven't been accidentally burnt by a cigarette end since them either.

[Attica!]

I agree about the hypocrisy....

If another product - lets say...... tomato ketchup - was found to have 1/10 of the harmful chemicals in that cigarettes have , the government would act swiftly to have it withdrawn from sale.

It'd be ripped from the shelves so fast it would be untrue.

It's all about the money for the politicians!

In a way it's not the tobacco that I dislike and hate - it's all the other 100+ additives , harmful and addictive chemicals that they lace them with.

I also enjoy there not being smoking at gigs - as I can actually breathe &  sing without losing my voice.
My clothes don't instantly smell rank from the smoke and I haven't been accidentally burnt by a cigarette end since them either.

Don't they apparantly add the substance found in rat poison the cigarettes?

[Afghan Dave]

I've got a friend who represents the National Federation of Retail Newsagents and I can tell you that when this inevitably cascades to the small "corner store" expect to lose that store!

Yes.. that means when it is late and you need some milk - you won't be able to walk and get it.

When you consider 60% of the trade that keeps YOUR local newsagent in business comes from tobacco a 5% cut would push them under.

This already happened in Canada.

[Attica!]

With all the brands, I'm wondering where they're gonna keep them all. I mean under the desk isn't going to have much room to house them all, and what about the places that don't have spaces underneath? And ifthey keep them in theback, that's just gonna be time wasted and really pee off the other customers.

And here's the big BIG problem. What about airports? They have millions upon million upon display. I know it's Duty Free, but the law will still apply for advertising, etc.

[Afghan Dave]

I've played the "guessing game" in Ireland and I pissed people off...

Err... do you sell cigs... err do you have A?... do you have B?... how much is B?... do you have C?.... how much is C?... do you have C lights... er..

[Toe-Knee]

With all the brands, I'm wondering where they're gonna keep them all. I mean under the desk isn't going to have much room to house them all, and what about the places that don't have spaces underneath? And ifthey keep them in theback, that's just gonna be time wasted and really pee off the other customers.

And here's the big BIG problem. What about airports? They have millions upon million upon display. I know it's Duty Free, but the law will still apply for advertising, etc.

They have been doing this locally for around 1-2 months now.

What they do is they have the normal cigarette stands and they just have the shutters down with it locked as it is on a night. And then they have to unlock it to check whether they actually have what you want.

I had a friend over last night and we went to sainsburys to get some whisky and he wanted some smokes and we had to wait for 15 minutes while the staff found out which member of staff had the key for the display and where they currently were.

[FELINEGUITARS]

This was interesting / scary
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1633429/Calculator-tax-pay-beer-wine-cigarettes-spirits.html

If you pay typically £7 a pack and smoke about 20 a day
A) it will cost you £2555
B) the government get £2070 in tax and duty from you (thats £5.67 on every pack)

It means that the cigarettes (without tax) cost £1.32
from that price there can't be that much profit for the shop per pack , so it must be on quantity sold.

I think that some smokers must object to paying an additional £2000+ tax a year - thats a lot of BKPs you could buy
In two years you could buy a pair of EVERY humbucker in the range with the tax you pay.

Or maybe something like this:

[Attica!]

This was interesting / scary
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1633429/Calculator-tax-pay-beer-wine-cigarettes-spirits.html

If you pay typically £7 a pack and smoke about 20 a day
A) it will cost you £2555
B) the government get £2070 in tax and duty from you (thats £5.67 on every pack)

It means that the cigarettes (without tax) cost £1.32
from that price there can't be that much profit for the shop per pack , so it must be on quantity sold.

I think that some smokers must object to paying an additional £2000+ tax a year - thats a lot of BKPs you could buy
In two years you could buy a pair of EVERY humbucker in the range with the tax you pay.

Or maybe something like this:

Ahhh, tobacco of the other sort :P

[FELINEGUITARS]

yes - I prefer my tobacco to be sunburst

[Philly Q]

When you consider 60% of the trade that keeps YOUR local newsagent in business comes from tobacco a 5% cut would push them under.

Is that right?  Sales of papers and magazines are (presumably) in decline, but cigarettes raise that much more than all those sweets, crisps and fizzy pop?  :?

Not saying it's wrong, I'm just surprised.

[Toe-Knee]

When you consider 60% of the trade that keeps YOUR local newsagent in business comes from tobacco a 5% cut would push them under.

Is that right?  Sales of papers and magazines are (presumably) in decline, but cigarettes raise that much more than all those sweets, crisps and fizzy pop?  :?

Not saying it's wrong, I'm just surprised.

There must be something in it.

one of the newsagents near me sells barely anything

Booze
Cigs
Adult mags
Newspapers
Toilet paper
Bread

And im totally being serious. The first time i went in i was completely baffled then again it is wakefield.... everythings weird here

[juansolo]

There must be something in it.

one of the newsagents near me sells barely anything

Booze
Cigs
Adult mags
Newspapers
Toilet paper
Bread

Just the essentials, I can see that...

And im totally being serious. The first time i went in i was completely baffled then again it is wakefield.... everythings weird here

I go into Wakefield centre once every 2 years, to get new glasses... Considering I live about 5 miles away, that's a little damning I think.