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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2012, 01:33:47 PM »
But really, does he hear something in these clips that makes him think they are what should represent the beautfiful pickups? They just sound almost fake...

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« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2012, 01:40:55 PM »
I know that I would not have bought my MQ neck for clean sounds judging from the clips on the site. I went for it anyway (lack of choice xD) and it is the most beautiful clean sound I ever heard from a PU. God am I happy I did not go with the clips.
Same with the Aftermath. Not the biggest fan of the clips, would not have gotten them judging by those. But I went after the description (and forum) and the clip by Misha posted in the forums as that one shows off the AM much more for what it does (since it is Misha it was probably recorded with an Axe Fx too though).

I also have to attest that the RY clip is good, actually represent the PU.
Mule and IT clips are ok, but not showing the fullest extend I believe.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2012, 03:58:52 PM »
some fresh news from FB
direct from Nolly

"Adam Nolly Getgood shared a link.
25 minutes ago
Here's a short clip of the new Bare Knuckle Black Hawk pickup doing some blues-fusion. This will be one of the clips featured on the Black Hawk's product page on the BKP website.

http://soundcloud.com/nolly/black-hawk-fusion


Wow! That actually sounds great! Really fat and smooth. It does seem very modern sounding though (unsurprisingly) and maybe maybe slightly dark in a les Paul custom. As far as I know the les Paul custom is BKPs standard demo guitar.

I do feel that BKP should begin to do distorted rythm clips though to display articulation and how the frequencies are "balanced" in a chord.

I feel they should start doing clips with amps again like they used to back in the old days :(

It showed the pickups in a much better light.

i think if the clips that are up now were up when i originally bought my miracle man in 2005 rather than the one that was up then i would have passed


Agreed. Dont like that tone at all, and all the newer clips are much more homogeneous than my experience of the pickups, in person and in recording. Ho hum, nothing to be done about it now. (And most people seem to like them, so job done I suppose, though I have seen lots of people (mainly on other forums, oddly enough) that the clips all sound too similar to make a decision easily)


Isn't that why we have this here lovely forum though?   :D

Indeed. You may be a bit new here to have read any of my essay-posts on the differences between the pickups in the contemporary range ;). I dont hear much of those differences in the clips on the site though.

The best representation I've heard of the nailbomb and miracle man are indeed in Tims 2005 recordings. I think that the newer clips more representative of the tones you can expect if you buy an AxeFX than any BKs, but obviously Tim disagrees or he wouldnt have used them.

This is also true. However from a marketing perspective it kinda makes a little bit of sense as the axefx is the current trend.

However there is also the point that you could get those tones from pretty much any pickup with a modeller.

Some of the official clips could NOT be done with just a straigh amp/guitar combination a boost would be needed and most likely an EQ also which again takes it back to not being truly representative of the actual pickups themselves.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2012, 04:13:48 PM »
Well I also think even though that's true, it's better to hear the clips in that regard since most people will use that amp->pedals -> guitar, so it gives most people a great idea of how it sounds. And I'm also all for full, like, 10 minute video demos visually showing gear, guitars, pickups, pup height, different setups, etc.

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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2012, 04:19:58 PM »
Well I also think even though that's true, it's better to hear the clips in that regard since most people will use that amp->pedals -> guitar, so it gives most people a great idea of how it sounds. And I'm also all for full, like, 10 minute video demos visually showing gear, guitars, pickups, pup height, different setups, etc.


I dont know. I just go straight into my guitar. The only pedals i use generally are modulation.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2012, 04:24:05 PM »
Same with me. I only use a wah pedal, reverb and delay and sometimes chorus. None of that should ver be used in a demo though.

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« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2012, 04:27:26 PM »
Same with me. I only use a wah pedal, reverb and delay and sometimes chorus. None of that should ver be used in a demo though.

Well in this case they arent.

My point was to get a similar sound with an actual amp you would have to do that this mainly applies to the lower output pickups though.

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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2012, 04:30:43 PM »
I know this applies to amps and other pedals, but not sure about pickups. Do some take to pedals better than others? If so, definitely a smart idea is obviously to show them taking on different kinds of pedals.

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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2012, 04:31:48 PM »
I know this applies to amps and other pedals, but not sure about pickups. Do some take to pedals better than others? If so, definitely a smart idea is obviously to show them taking on different kinds of pedals.

some need them to get the tightness demonstrated on the site clips. Others it will just add sheer compression.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM »
I think the obvious benefit of the AXE FX is the easy way to record great sounding samples, consistent samples and the ability to store patches for later use.

However, I always felt that the samples for the metal on the BKP website sound 99% the same, and me too always thought that the original Miracle Man and Nailbomb demos worked a lot better at demonstrating the pickups' potential and character.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2012, 05:34:19 PM »
BTW, back to the original topic of the thread, BK just posted a new visual video of Nolly playing the Blackhawks. Can't pull up the clip though, sorry. Check it out!

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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2012, 05:38:55 PM »
And those blades look absolutely KILLER in the gold top! I bet they would look mighty good on a Black Beauty too! I notice pretty much all the demos have been with LP's....this a LP kinda pickup I guess?

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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2012, 05:40:00 PM »
And those blades look absolutely KILLER in the gold top! I bet they would look mighty good on a Black Beauty too! I notice pretty much all the demos have been with LP's....this a LP kinda pickup I guess?

The LP is the BKP test clip guitar i believe.
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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2012, 06:01:11 PM »
The LP is the BKP test clip guitar i believe.

That one actually isn't the test clip guitar

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Re: Blackhawks????
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2012, 06:10:53 PM »
The video can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKw1F1Bd1-w

I've designed the Black Hawk to sit in all guitar types not just LPs - we decided to shoot Adam playing the Goldtop as it's not a guitar he would usually be associated with and we also wanted to show how quite a modern looking pickup sits in a very old guitar(the LP is very early '70s).
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