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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 07:01:40 PM »
I woulda said HD's but seeing you already have some.... VHII's would probably work pretty well in there

Thanks.
Any other opinions?

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 09:14:11 PM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2012, 09:40:44 PM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.

Hmm... so nothing from the vintage hot section? I was quite liking the idea of VHIIs or Black Dogs. Why shouldn't I go for those?
I might have to take a look at the Cold Sweat set or the Mules set...

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2012, 02:03:42 AM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.

+1, though the CS have the reputation to work too in all mahagony/setneck guitars.
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2012, 07:54:45 AM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.

+1, though the CS have the reputation to work too in all mahagony/setneck guitars.

The Cold Sweat bridge is ceramic...
So... If I were to get a cold sweat bridge what neck would you match it up with? And I still really want to know why the VHII neck and black dog bridge wouldn't work out.

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2012, 09:39:40 AM »
It might work, it's just my preference. Some all mahogany guitars can get a bit woofy in the low end.
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2012, 09:52:31 AM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.

+1, though the CS have the reputation to work too in all mahagony/setneck guitars.

The Cold Sweat bridge is ceramic...
So... If I were to get a cold sweat bridge what neck would you match it up with? And I still really want to know why the VHII neck and black dog bridge wouldn't work out.

Yes, the CS is ceramic, but sounds way more refined then ceramics from other brands. CS-neck is alnico, why not a calibrated set.
I'm with gwEm about the BD, which is already relatively soft in the bass. In a big lump of mahogany that could smother the lows. 
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2012, 10:18:26 AM »
Go either vintage output, or something with a ceramic bridge.

+1, though the CS have the reputation to work too in all mahagony/setneck guitars.

The Cold Sweat bridge is ceramic...
So... If I were to get a cold sweat bridge what neck would you match it up with? And I still really want to know why the VHII neck and black dog bridge wouldn't work out.

Yes, the CS is ceramic, but sounds way more refined then ceramics from other brands. CS-neck is alnico, why not a calibrated set.
I'm with gwEm about the BD, which is already relatively soft in the bass. In a big lump of mahogany that could smother the lows. 
Ok... So the BD is out of the question.
How would a calibrated VHII set work out? Or maybe the VHII neck and Cold Sweat Bridge.
I'm certainly not ruling out a calibrated cold sweat set. I just wanna check out the options.
And what about a Mule set for some crispy rock n roll tones?

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2012, 10:28:43 AM »
And what about a Mule set for some crispy rock n roll tones?

This is exactly what I'm wondering. But I haven't tried my Mules in either of my all mahogany Gibsons, so I can't say for certain whether it's a good idea... I'd be tempted though! :lol:
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2012, 11:06:50 AM »
And what about a Mule set for some crispy rock n roll tones?

This is exactly what I'm wondering. But I haven't tried my Mules in either of my all mahogany Gibsons, so I can't say for certain whether it's a good idea... I'd be tempted though! :lol:
Well maybe another user has tried it out and can give some advice...
What about the other pickups that I've mention? How would they suit?
I'm sort of hoping that Jonathan (FelineGuitars) takes a look at this thread and gives some advice. I'm sure that he's tried every BKP in 100 different guitars each.

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2012, 11:33:57 AM »
I have a set of A5 mules in one of the V fadeds that I think works great. Now, Tim himself has stated that he finds the mids on the A5 mule too hard, but I don't find it so.
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2012, 11:45:39 AM »
I have a set of A5 mules in one of the V fadeds that I think works great. Now, Tim himself has stated that he finds the mids on the A5 mule too hard, but I don't find it so.

Are A5 mules still available? They are listed on the website as alnico IV only.
If they are it could be very appealing.
I'm still very interested in a calibrated VHII set, though. Any experience with them?
But so far it looks like The Mules or Cold Sweats.

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2012, 07:18:09 PM »
I use cold sweats in my mahogany Vs - utterly superb , although tempted to try the new Blackhawks
Miracle Man can sound good too - although I would put a Cold Sweat neck  in with it.

If you buy one I would suggest changing out the 300k pots to 550s and adding an oil and paper cap 0.022uF (jensen  if it will fit)

My formula for all mahogany guitars is lower output alnico and higher output ceramic

I feel like Gwem that a A5 mule would be lovely, but you can't get them (pout) so try a Black Dog or a VH2
The Emerald works well too- surprisingly so!

My own V obsession (pun intended) is Schenker related - both Michael and Rudolph , as well as Wolf Hoffman (Accept), Randy Rhoads , KK Downing and Kiss's Paul Stanley
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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2012, 07:37:28 PM »
I use cold sweats in my mahogany Vs - utterly superb , although tempted to try the new Blackhawks
Miracle Man can sound good too - although I would put a Cold Sweat neck  in with it.

If you buy one I would suggest changing out the 300k pots to 550s and adding an oil and paper cap 0.022uF (jensen  if it will fit)

My formula for all mahogany guitars is lower output alnico and higher output ceramic

I feel like Gwem that a A5 mule would be lovely, but you can't get them (pout) so try a Black Dog or a VH2
The Emerald works well too- surprisingly so!

My own V obsession (pun intended) is Schenker related - both Michael and Rudolph , as well as Wolf Hoffman (Accept), Randy Rhoads , KK Downing and Kiss's Paul Stanley
Thanks do much for the info... But unfortunately it's just left me in the same position that I was in before the post.
I was already gonna swap out the pots and caps (I've already done so with my les Paul and Strat and have been very pleased with the results).

So now in confused... Would the Black Dogs and VHII work nicely or not? I'm currently leaning towards a Cold Sweat set because I'm not really interested in anything near as high ouput as the miracle man and I don't really have any info in the Black Dogs and VHII... Yet.

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Re: Opinions on the Gibson Flying V Faded...
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2012, 07:59:50 PM »
Philly Q tried the Black Dog bridge in an Edwards V and thought it was a bit meh. I have a Riff Radd in the bridge of a similar V and it work excellently for an open Schenker-y sort of tone. Maybe ask Philly Q for more details of his Black Dog'd V.
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