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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 07:30:18 PM »
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 07:35:11 PM »
love that wood grain! is walnut supposed to be similar to mahogany when it comes to tone characteristics? i imagine it to be a dark wood...

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 07:38:27 PM »
There's only one change I'd make to a guitar like this - I'd have a 4 pole switch to give these combinations:

  • Bridge only
  • Bridge + middle (strat inbetween setting)
  • Bridge + neck (tele inbetween setting)
  • All pickups on
  • Neck only

Yeah, you can do all that sort of fun stuff easily with a super switch. The thing that limits me is that the winding/magnet polarity is wrong for the B+M.

Now what *might* work with the standard switch and wiring is if I swap the middle and neck around in the guard. I've no idea if that would give me a B+M combo that would work (I should really fire a mail to Tim/Ben about that...).

With the super switch I could leave the pups as they are and have B, B+N, M, M+N, N. Which would give me tele tones in pos 5 and 4 and strat on the others. However this again is providing that the neck pup plays with the bridge pup in parallel. If it doesn't then there are other options with the superswitch open to experimentation. As I say, something for me to have a play with later.

EDIT: It may just be that the B+M is out of phase and I need to reverse the wiring... It won't hum cancel, but it'll stop it being nasal. In theory.
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2012, 07:41:29 PM »
Ah yes, you'd need RWRP for mid and neck pickups really

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2012, 07:50:42 PM »
Ah yes, you'd need RWRP for mid and neck pickups really

yeah the middle is currently RWRP to the neck pup. The bridge is stock tele, which doesn't marry up. If you order this as a set from BKP, they make sure it does. As I say, me trying to save some cash and causing myself all sorts of bother ;)
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2012, 08:01:58 PM »
That's a cracker! Beautiful Super Tele there John, enjoy.

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2012, 08:04:28 PM »
love that wood grain! is walnut supposed to be similar to mahogany when it comes to tone characteristics? i imagine it to be a dark wood...

its a lot less dark than mahogany.  solid walnut guitars tend to be quite middy.   in most of its qualities its closer to a softer maple than mahogany


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as for the pickup stuff.   i think i would swap the black and white wires on the neck and bridge pickups.  which will stop the B&M combo being out of phase, still give the same sounds on all other settings, but may not be hum cancelling.    also the bridge and middle where pretty similar ohmage so could be swapped - There should still be plenty of wire on the pickups to try

some of you may wonder why i didnt try that after realising that position was out of phase, i should say i did offer ;) the original plan was to send this without pickups for juan to wire up himself, but i wanted to get it done for testing purposes

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2012, 08:11:10 PM »
Yup, all my fault and me sending the pups over was a last minute thing. ;)

I do wonder if swapping the wires on the bridge, then swapping the strat pups over might actually fix everything. In theory it should and it should even hum cancel.  Might do that this weekend and see.
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 08:23:46 PM »
you would need to separate the baseplate and ground wire on the pickup, not too fiddly to do though, not for someone with your soldering skills

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2012, 09:33:23 PM »
That looks sweeeet!

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 10:37:18 PM »
Nice duvet.

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 10:44:20 PM »
Lovely wood - yummy!
Very nicely done Wez...

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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 10:48:32 PM »
Bloody lovely guitar- congrats to you and nice one Wez. I think the hybrid is stunning to look at.
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 11:03:16 PM »
There's only one change I'd make to a guitar like this - I'd have a 4 pole switch to give these combinations:

  • Bridge only
  • Bridge + middle (strat inbetween setting)
  • Bridge + neck (tele inbetween setting)
  • All pickups on
  • Neck only

I've got a wiring diagram somewhere which gives Strat wiring but with Bridge + Neck in one of the "in-between" positions, so you lose either Bridge + Middle or Neck + Middle, according to taste.

So the RW/RP pickup needs to be either the Bridge or the Neck (depending on which setup you want), rather than the Middle.

That would be great on this kind of guitar (if all the polarities/windings were right), you effectively keep all three Tele sounds and four of the five Strat sounds.
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Re: NGD, no PRS content!
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 07:37:42 AM »
Very nice :D

And (old) BG50 and ITs sounds like a perfect combination to me - hope you get the phase stuff sorted asap. Although, I've never heard a tele bridge and strat middle together in parallel - it's possible I wouldn't want the sound whether it's in phase or not (I'd always be thinking of the strat B/M, and I suspect it's not quite the same :lol:)
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