Telecaster with pile driver, the boss or brown sugar?

[Ben233]

 Hello. I'm very excited about installing a new BK bridge pickup on my telecaster and want to install the right one for me.

 Currently, I'm using a seymor duncan Hot rails pickup. I'm happy about the tone and the sound in overall
 
 but just when soloing, I feel like I need more sustain and thicker tone (I mean, particularly when a single note is played through hot rails, it sounds a little thin for me compared to real humburkers)

 What could be the best Tele BK pickup having a similar tone of hot rails? I play punk, classic rock, progressive rock alternertive etc.

 Thank you.
 

 

[Telerocker]

You need the Piledriver for that.

[Sir_Palomid]

Recently I had same question - need new pu's for my Tele, asked Tim what would he suggest for blues/rock/heavy progressive rock pu, beefy tone, that could play "lighter" styles as jazz and country by rolling volume down.
My options were flat 50's, the boss, or piledivers, and I was sure he would recommend piledivers, but suddenly he recommended flat 50's, so this might be an option too :)
Still waiting for parcel to arrive, though.

[Ben233]

You need the Piledriver for that.

 I'm also considering getting either a set or not, How does the piledriver sound like on a neck position?
 I found that DC res. of the piledriver (neck) is low compared to the one for a bridge.

 
 Thank you for your reply btw.

[Ben233]

Recently I had same question - need new pu's for my Tele, asked Tim what would he suggest for blues/rock/heavy progressive rock pu, beefy tone, that could play "lighter" styles as jazz and country by rolling volume down.
My options were flat 50's, the boss, or piledivers, and I was sure he would recommend piledivers, but suddenly he recommended flat 50's, so this might be an option too :)
Still waiting for parcel to arrive, though.

 It seems like Blackguard Flat 50's has not enough DC res. to make a pickup beefy and punchy as many humbuckers do. I wonder if flat 50's is grindy when there's much gain. cause I don;t like that grindy-ice picking distortion when I play power chords.
 But I have no idea how those pickups will sound like, since I haven't used any of BK's product.
 Are you waiting for Flat 50's?  please post it how it's like

[Sir_Palomid]

It seems like Blackguard Flat 50's has not enough DC res. to make a pickup beefy and punchy as many humbuckers do. I wonder if flat 50's is grindy when there's much gain. cause I don;t like that grindy-ice picking distortion when I play power chords.
 But I have no idea how those pickups will sound like, since I haven't used any of BK's product.
 Are you waiting for Flat 50's?  please post it how it's like

Blackguard Flat 50's has higher DC (10.6) than both Brown Sugars (7.6) and Boss (8.2), but less than Piledriver (13.1).
And also DC is not direct synonimus to output - look at new Blackhawk humbucker, pretty low DC and pretty high output.
Once I had a Kinman Hx85 single coil in my Strat bridge - DC was about 11, and it was by the far best Strat bridge single coil that I've tried, beefy enough to play even progressive metal, and without "icepick".
Brown Sugars are quite bright and could sound icepicky I think.
Tim said, that Flat 50's don't have icepick qualities, they are rounded slightly in the top end, but retains cut, with a lot of bass and midrange. You always can ask Tim - he knows all about his pickups :)

My pickups now in customs, so I will get them in the start of next week I think.

[Ben233]

It seems like Blackguard Flat 50's has not enough DC res. to make a pickup beefy and punchy as many humbuckers do. I wonder if flat 50's is grindy when there's much gain. cause I don;t like that grindy-ice picking distortion when I play power chords.
 But I have no idea how those pickups will sound like, since I haven't used any of BK's product.
 Are you waiting for Flat 50's?  please post it how it's like

Blackguard Flat 50's has higher DC (10.6) than both Brown Sugars (7.6) and Boss (8.2), but less than Piledriver (13.1).
And also DC is not direct synonimus to output - look at new Blackhawk humbucker, pretty low DC and pretty high output.
Once I had a Kinman Hx85 single coil in my Strat bridge - DC was about 11, and it was by the far best Strat bridge single coil that I've tried, beefy enough to play even progressive metal, and without "icepick".
Brown Sugars are quite bright and could sound icepicky I think.
Tim said, that Flat 50's don't have icepick qualities, they are rounded slightly in the top end, but retains cut, with a lot of bass and midrange. You always can ask Tim - he knows all about his pickups :)

My pickups now in customs, so I will get them in the start of next week I think.

  Ahww... man now it became harder to decide!
  btw I'm new here. Who's Tim?

[Sir_Palomid]

  Ahww... man now it became harder to decide!
  btw I'm new here. Who's Tim?

Tim Mills - founder and owner of Bareknuckle Pickups :)
You can write him an email in the Support / Contact BKP section on BKP site.

[Ben233]

  Ahww... man now it became harder to decide!
  btw I'm new here. Who's Tim?

Tim Mills - founder and owner of Bareknuckle Pickups :)
You can write him an email in the Support / Contact BKP section on BKP site.

 Ahh.. Thanks. I just sent a message to Tim.  hope that I can get any help from him.

[Sir_Palomid]

Ahh.. Thanks. I just sent a message to Tim.  hope that I can get any help from him.

Don't worry, he is always answering - very heplful, and also pleasant and communicative person.
Thing that I love in BKP - it's customer support. I had another "hand-made" pickups from other manufacturers, but wasn't satisfied with the sound, wrote letters and etc... some were answering after month wait, some not at all (but kept to send me advertisements, heh). In case of support and response they don't come even close to BKP.

[Telerocker]

The BG50's can do metal, but they have more vintagevibe then the Piledriver. I didn't recommend the Flat50 considering you want to play metal/prog with it too. I think the Piledriver is the best for that.

(Nevertheless I can get good metaltones with Mules too  :D).

[Sir_Palomid]

I think that BG50's can cover more styles than Pilediver, which is compressed modern-Tele sound.

If I've played only progressive rock\metal - it would be my only choice,
but I have my Suhr and PRS for it, and I bought Tele for more vintage styles - jazz/blues/blues-rock/progressive rock/country shred,
and I think they are capable to do metal also (listen to the samples on the website, pretty impressive)!  8)

[Ben233]

Tom replied me already!
 
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 Hi Ben,

if you want really solid weight behind each note then I would have to recommend the Piledriver as the best option. It produces a really good driven tone and is excellent for single note work - it also works nicely for cleans too.

Kindest Regards,

Tim

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 I need that solid weight on each note !! I think Pile Driver might be my choice this time..
 
  but I have a feeling that I would get Flat '50s ,too. kkkkkkk