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Frank

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50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« on: July 31, 2012, 06:17:53 PM »
Seriously? What's the catch here?

http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-Tube-H50R-50W-All-Valve-Guitar-Amp-Stack/KRJ

Other than the brand name, obviously.

Even if it's not the greatest sounding amp in the world, might be worth buying one just to mod it into something else!

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 06:21:38 PM »
Id grab that and make it into something divine sounding!

People would expect utter cr@p as they've probably never heard of the company and then be surprised.

I got given an ashdown head that I was going to do this for however the 12ax7 holes in the chassis were about the size of a jam jar base as the sockets were all pcb mounted. Im trying to figure out a sturdy and visually pleasing way to remedy this.
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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 06:58:51 PM »
Just started digging up clips on YouTube, not bad sounding gear, actually!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQASnguxriE

[Edit] Found some more semi-to-decent quality vids, and becoming more and more impressed with the sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfhTB78J-4A

I wonder if they just blow up all the time or something, heh.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 07:03:23 PM by Nadz1lla »

Frank

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 07:18:55 PM »
No, you're meant to be giving me reasons NOT to buy one.

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 07:19:51 PM »
Oh it could have the bugera fire & smoke mod as standard.
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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 07:25:32 PM »
k, I watched the second clip where the guy ran it clean and I didn't hear a sound from it that I didn't love.

£220 for an all-tube combo with Celestion speaker?

World's gone mad.

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 07:27:58 PM »
I found this thread on UG: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1526954

Seems like nobody really knows much about them. Two people so far either own / have tried them and love them.

For someone like me where money is freaking tight it really might be worth having a go. Can always return it if it's not up to my needs. My only problem is that on the Belcat site there's a more "Rock" looking aesthetic which I'd prefer but g4m only do the brown one. Ugh...   :?

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 07:42:51 PM »
50 watt all tube Peavey Classic 2x12 tweed combo for sale in seconds out... 8)

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 08:45:25 PM »
I need a head and cab, sorry.  >_<

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 09:42:55 PM »
They do a 5w twin channel head for £99.00 too, wow, thats insane... 

http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-Tube-H5-Guitar-Amp-Head/HMG

It even LOOKS good too... 


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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 09:57:52 PM »
i suspect the cabinet isn't ply... i know i emailed them about the little 1x10 cab and it was mdf iirc.

regarding the amp... haven't tried it. Heard some reasonable things about it, but obviously that's just hearsay. And I've only heard a little, it's not like i know of 200 people who have it and like it, lol.

also iirc the amp only has an 8 ohm out, so that might be annoying, too.

EDIT:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

the obvious catch is that it's dearer to buy the head and cab together than separately :lol:

the head is £199 and the cab is £115... together they're £319 :lol:

as i said, though, i'd pass on the cab. You can get ply 2x12 cabs for that money (or less), either the harley benton on thomann if you want closed back, or the vht if you want open-backed.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 10:02:24 PM by dave_mc »

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 10:14:43 PM »
It's almost getting to the stage it's not worth revalving, let alone paying someone to repair it......

Having said that, it's good to see someone making an affordable no frills amp that (hopefully) sounds good, rather than trying to pack too many features into it.


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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 10:53:20 PM »
also iirc the amp only has an 8 ohm out, so that might be annoying, too.

I'd expect the output transformer has other taps on it but they've saved money by not fitting an impedance selector switch.

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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 11:05:02 PM »
They do a 5w twin channel head for £99.00 too, wow, thats insane... 

http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Belcat-Tube-H5-Guitar-Amp-Head/HMG

It even LOOKS good too... 



I rather like the look of the 10w single ended combo ..........might be a bit like a Cornell Romany?
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Re: 50 Watt all tube stack for £319?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 11:41:21 PM »
I like how it's powered up in that pic with no speaker attached :)

At the price I'd be wondering if they were made by starving children in a Chinese sweatshop every time I plugged it in. £99 is ridiculous, you'd have a hard time just buying the transformers and tubes for that money.