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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2012, 04:27:27 PM »
fwiw, there are hundreds of tube screamer clones on the market - its not an especially picky circuit or difficult one to get sounding right.  Even the cheap £30.00 Joyo clones sound great.


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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2012, 04:42:56 PM »
fwiw, there are hundreds of tube screamer clones on the market - its not an especially picky circuit or difficult one to get sounding right.  Even the cheap £30.00 Joyo clones sound great.

Yep, I run a Joyo Vintage OD (TS clone) in front of my 5150 and it does the job just fine.

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2012, 06:40:40 PM »
I dont want to think about what that would sound like infront of a 5150.
Presumably it might not sound utterly dreadful if you were running the 5150 much cleaner than usual? Although I guess that kind of defeats the point of having a 5150.

Yes and yes.

Theres nothing to stop anyone from trying, and theres nothing that I know to say that it hasnt been done on some well known record or other, but the question being about how what pedals are generally used in death metal sounds, the answer is overwhelmingly HM2s into clean or near clean SS or 800/900/similar and TS-type (set with max/high level and low/min distortion) as a boost into something high gain (lions share 5150s and rectos). Though I'm not sure the distinctions are really worth anything, or are meaningful at all as descriptions, the former is the classic 'brutal' sound and the latter is the more modern 'tech' sound, along with a huge swathe of non-death metal.

That being said, that the TS -> 5150/recto -> V30 -> 57 -> API sound is absolutely all over modern metal, you could say that the only real answer for 'death metal sound' as opposed to 'sound used in death metal' is the HM2.

That doesnt mean to say that the same tonal ballpark cant be achieved in many other ways, but they are by far and away the most common scenarios.

Edit: also quite a bit of DM (more than elsewhere afaik) uses SS amps without a pedal. Some crates whos name espapes me, marshall valvestates, and especially the ampeg VH140s have all seen quite abit of record time.
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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2012, 06:44:59 PM »
Hmmm, think I might try and grab an HM-2 on ebay and see how it sounds through the clean channel on my 5150 now, just for my own amusement.

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2012, 09:25:06 PM »
Is there any "typical" settings for a HM2 when it's used with a 5150 for deathmetal tones?

Theres two. The "live" version. Which is everything maxed except the gain, which is on 1. Use it as an od in front of your amp.

Then theres the "studio" bedroom version, which is the hm-2 and a tubescreamer, both maxed except the tubescreamers OD, which is minimalised. Run it into a Clean amp, and recieve.. Destruction..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw6c44hUK8o
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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2012, 09:39:55 PM »
Is there any "typical" settings for a HM2 when it's used with a 5150 for deathmetal tones?

Theres two. The "live" version. Which is everything maxed except the gain, which is on 1. Use it as an od in front of your amp.

How's this sound, compared with the more usual use of a TS to boost the amp?

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2012, 10:40:43 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-1vcuKcXeI

This video about the Boss HM2 has thoroughly amused me
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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2012, 10:45:18 PM »
I'm nearly sure it was an HM2 i had. i think it's in my mum's attic. will have to see when i go back to ireland next.

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2012, 12:52:53 AM »
but the question being about how what pedals are generally used in death metal sounds, the answer is overwhelmingly HM2s into clean or near clean SS or 800/900/similar

That's what I was trying ask, didn't know they tended to use those kind of amps

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2012, 07:22:17 AM »
Is there any "typical" settings for a HM2 when it's used with a 5150 for deathmetal tones?

Theres two. The "live" version. Which is everything maxed except the gain, which is on 1. Use it as an od in front of your amp.

How's this sound, compared with the more usual use of a TS to boost the amp?

very similar. the ts just tightens up the signal, and the hm-2 brings the voicing.
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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2012, 09:41:49 AM »
It's been a while since I've plugged in my Digitech Death Metal. Maybe I should do that tomorrow.

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2012, 03:57:34 PM »
That's really not aimed at death metal sounds at all though, is it? I thought it was a 'thrash in a box' kinda thing?

Sounds like a Rev+ in a box. Tons of headroom.

So, thrash in a box, then? :lol:

 ... :lol: IDK, for me it has lots of gain. Always on my board. Great for fly-ins when you find out the backline amp is a Twin Reverb. Really good EQ, almost like having a preamp in a box. Built like a tank and fairly low cost.
"Modern" sounding aggressive tone. Plenty of saturation. You wouldn't guess it was a stompbox.
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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2012, 06:46:11 PM »
I am quite content with the following:

Tech-21 Sans-amp Tri-AC

Rat Deucetone

Zoom Tri-Metal TM-01
^ I actually have two of these - basically a Boss Metal Zone clone.
Sounds GREAT on synthesizer too!

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2012, 04:27:59 AM »
Is there any "typical" settings for a HM2 when it's used with a 5150 for deathmetal tones?

Theres two. The "live" version. Which is everything maxed except the gain, which is on 1. Use it as an od in front of your amp.

Then theres the "studio" bedroom version, which is the hm-2 and a tubescreamer, both maxed except the tubescreamers OD, which is minimalised. Run it into a Clean amp, and recieve.. Destruction..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw6c44hUK8o

I have a couple of hm-2s, and I like them a lot.  You can get one on ebay for less than a hundred bucks if you are looking for one.  Pardon my ignorance, but what does the tubescreamer bring to the party?  How does it make the sound more brutal?   

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Re: Best Death Metal Pedal Either New or Old or Not Made Anymore
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2012, 06:44:07 AM »
it tightens up the signal a bit. i think the hm-2 is a bit flubby on it self. the tubescreamer can provide a clean boost which makes it cut through better.
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