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dvorak

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Lets talk single coils
« on: September 20, 2012, 12:13:23 PM »
Well, I usually don't have any problems choosing a humbucker. But this time I bought a SSS guitar. I'm totally new to single coils, having never owned a guitar with even one in it.

Anyway, I bought a PRS SE EG which has the 25" scale and mahogany body and neck. I've been searching around for options, but this doesn't seem to be a very common configuration :)

The stock pickups have too little output for my taste (around 6 kOhms). I'm looking to get a set of pups that have more output for some higher gain playing, yet not loose the nice clean stratty tones (which is what I bought the guitar for in the first place). Normally I play metal in C tuning, but cleans and crunch tones are the highest priority with this guitar.

I'm looking at the trilogy suit, would there be suitable you think? I have no doubt that they will handle the Yngwie style pick sounds, but will they have the dreamy twangy strat sound in pos 2 and4 when the clean up?
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:35:13 PM »
I have a Holydiver as Bridge pickup in my Strat and two Slowhand Singlecoils in the Middle and Neck. Although it's a HSS Guitar, positions 2 and 4 sound amazing, with the twangy sound you're asking for. They are also amazing for high gain and I love playing solos on them, although they aren't as hot as Trilogy Suits they do the job well and I'm pretty sure you can't go wrong with TS's either. If you want something even hotter, check out the Sinners. However, I'm not an expert on BKP Singles regarding wood configurations so maybe someone else suggests something better suited. Just my 2 cents :)

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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 12:51:46 PM »
Thanks!

Good to hear that the slowhands handle more gain aswell. Might be what I'm looking for. Then the question would be, are they bright enough for my 25" mahogany "strat"? The trilogy suit specifically mentions mahogany wood, but they have much higher output that the slowhands.

It seems like most people here play buckers (which I do too) and that makes it more difficult to find information :)

Glad you put your experinces down anyway, it will useful for somebody else down the road too! :)
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 01:05:53 PM »
As said, I can only judge from the Slowhands I have. But then again my Strat has a poplar body and a full maple neck, so it's a rather bright guitar. I guess you'd need a brighter pickup therefore as mahogany is a dark sounding wood. If no one suggests anything else, your best bet would be to email BKP and ask them for advice :)

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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 02:09:43 PM »
cool guitar mate!!

trilogies will still give you those nice in between positions. but the shorter scale, and the mahogany body will give extra warmth, so slowhands might be the right place to look. it depends where on the gain scale you want to sit, both will handle drive and give a good clean. the slowhands are a bit pokier in the mids maybe. I wouldn't go for Sinners.
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 02:14:42 PM »
what about a nice picture of the guitar for us? :)
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 02:52:30 PM »
Thanks fellas! Appreciate both your input very much. I knew there were some good knowledge here regarding the single coils. :)

gwEm: I think I'll go for the slowhands, it seems to me that the trilogy suits is a bit too hot for me.  I'll give it a day to sink in if nobody else has got another suggestion.

Thanks for the comments regarding the SE EG. It's a very nice guitar, surprised me more than I expected. All PRS:es have this clarity in the high end even though it's a 25", even the SEs. The stock electronics are nothing to write home about, but we're about to change that anyway. :D

Funny thing is that they stopped making the SE EG a couple of years ago, and I found this one brand new in a guitarshop locally. Protective plastic still on it and everything. Ironically I've been eying them on the 2nd hand market for some time as a strat alternative. Got it for around £350, couldn't pass that up (there's always an excuse to cure the GAS ;)). It's not just a great cheap guitar, it's a great guitar in terms of construction. The set neck and all mahogany construction sealed the deal, and I do like painted guitars, neck and everything :)

It sits a little different in the mix than a strat. It's not a guitar if you want a strat, but it has some stratty qualities if you know what I mean.

I'll get some pics up later today when I get home.
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 06:46:35 PM »
What about a set of Irish yours?I think they handle gain quite well and they will definitely give you nice stratty tones. They might suit the mahogany body of your guitar well as they are brighter voiced than the slowhands.
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 07:08:51 PM »
cool guitar mate!!

trilogies will still give you those nice in between positions. but the shorter scale, and the mahogany body will give extra warmth, so slowhands might be the right place to look. it depends where on the gain scale you want to sit, both will handle drive and give a good clean. the slowhands are a bit pokier in the mids maybe. I wouldn't go for Sinners.

This recommendation covers it accurately imho. Just bear in mind that the TS sound more modern then the beefy Slowhands. The Irish Tours are great too, but I think not really the ones for the Yngwie-repertoire. They're smokey, gritty vintagehot blues/rockpickups.
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 11:03:21 AM »
Howdy.
Check out my 'sleeps till Christmas' thread.   I was where you are now a month ago.  But Tim and everyone here have been fantastic with their help.

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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2012, 10:17:05 PM »
Thanks all for the input. It's much appreciated and it has given me some thoughts.

I will however take the slow hand route, it seems like it's a good choice for this guitar.

I took some pics as well. I hanged it next to my BK loaded SE Custom 24. You can really see that the SE CU24 was the basis for the SE EG :)

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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2012, 11:55:57 PM »
Looks very pretty in white!
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Re: Lets talk single coils
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 09:02:59 AM »
Ah! You got a white one.. even better. Looks lovely.
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