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Ian Price

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 06:32:49 PM »
I normally like the more vintage strats i.e. no HBs. I must admit that I like this one a lot though!
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 06:57:54 PM »
I quite like the relic hotrodded look, but that's gonna always cause some debate wether its too much'or not.
Strats do it for me, but tele's even more.  :D
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 07:02:59 PM »
I used to really dislike strats, but that has changed in the last two years or so. This one looks particularly cool. I like the relicing, I like the white sc's and the black hb - which kinda surprises me as I normaly don't like this sort of miss match, and I like the tortoise pickguard. All in all - very tasty!
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 07:34:51 PM »
The treble rolloff in the old cable is just the capacitance from the screen to the shield.

If anyone wants to simulate that, it's easy enough to put a bunch of small pF-range caps on a rotary switch and into a stompbox to play round with varying amounts of treble rolloff.

You could name it something daft that alludes to simulating a vintage coiled cable  :roll:

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 09:57:24 PM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 10:29:36 PM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

Even tone knobs do the trick!!!
If you want less treble all you need to do is a bit of EQing! No need to find a sh*tty cable from the 70s. :/

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2012, 11:15:59 PM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

Even tone knobs do the trick!!!
If you want less treble all you need to do is a bit of EQing! No need to find a sh*tty cable from the 70s. :/

Its audibly different from rolling back the tone knob. Sure the cable is 'just' doing EQing, but it works really well. Sounds very natural, maybe one could experiment and get the same with discrete components.
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2012, 11:33:00 PM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2012, 12:36:53 AM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2012, 12:46:00 AM »
I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P

Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.

I've got one of those grey curly Radio Shack cables SRV was apparently fond of - bought many years ago because it was cheap, nothing to do with any kind of "tone quest".  I really do notice a big effect on the tone.
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2012, 01:37:16 PM »
I really do notice a big effect on the tone.

I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:

I reckon it's a case of "if it works, it works..." on all this stuff.

I was really interested, though - assuming I've read this right, gWem - that the tall one is not using it as a "guitar lead" as such, but as part of his effects chain on the floor! :lol:
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2012, 01:46:03 PM »
I really do notice a big effect on the tone.

I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:

I reckon it's a case of "if it works, it works..." on all this stuff.

I was really interested, though - assuming I've read this right, gWem - that the tall one is not using it as a "guitar lead" as such, but as part of his effects chain on the floor! :lol:

I guess I am "the tall one"? Anyway yes, you can see a 70s curly cable on my pedal board at every show where I play a strat. I had no idea this would cause so much controversy!

(because its the wrong colour to use as a guitar lead from the actual guitar :roll:)
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2012, 02:50:35 PM »
I really do notice a big effect on the tone.

I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:

Wasn't intentional!  :lol:

Basically it attenuates the treble, like gwEm said - with some guitars it sounds good, others (P-90s, mostly) it doesn't. 

It's my "go to" cable because it doesn't take up much space or get tangled, but if I notice a guitar's sounding a bit muffled and it's bothering me, I'll try swapping the cable.  :)
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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2012, 11:09:33 PM »
Well... I like strats, but that one does nothing for me :lol:

It looks like it's been messed with too much for my tastes!

I'm with you - I love Strats, but that one is wrong.

Dave - could the attraction be that the guitar has a > 2K price tag..?

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Re: I don't like Strats, but...
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2012, 01:10:39 PM »
I guess I am "the tall one"? Anyway yes, you can see a 70s curly cable on my pedal board at every show where I play a strat. I had no idea this would cause so much controversy!

(because its the wrong colour to use as a guitar lead from the actual guitar :roll:)

:lol: - yep, you're the "tall one" of my post :D

I don't see this curly lead thing as that controversial myself. (I did laugh out loud when I saw the "because it's the wrong colour" though... :lol:)
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