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dave_mc

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2012, 09:41:39 PM »
That was pretty amazing (and in a way depressing, but let's not worry about that.  :wink: )

Funnily enough, the ones I found least convincing were the last few - Beck, Scofield and Hendrix.  Maybe he was getting tired at the end.  :lol:

yeah- i don't really know scofield that well, i was talking about the guys i was more familiar with :lol: I thought beck wasn't too bad (but i'm not that well up on his playing either).

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2012, 10:21:59 PM »
Oh one thing I forgot: Record yourself and listen to it.
That way you can hear where you actually are and notice your mistakes much more. And if you play something well and listen to it you are like "yeaaaaahhh" and totally motivated.
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »
get private tuition!

yes it costs money, is it worth it? hell yes, I learned more from private tuition than I could ever teach myself, I improved 10x in just one year and came out of it being able to play things that I though was literally impossible for me to ever achieve. Obviously you need a good teacher though but if you can find one it is worth it's weight in gold and will stick with you for the rest of your life.

I think you're probably right, ultimately.  Lessons are probably the best way to learn.  I learned quite a lot from lessons with Alan Limbrick at the Guitar Institute years ago, although I can't say I enjoyed it much.

But (here I go making excuses again....)

It would be extremely important for me to find someone I could get on with, shared (some of) my musical taste, etc etc..... I spent ages once going through the Registry of Guitar Tutors website, and everybody seemed to be miles away, or 20 years younger than me (which, no offence to young people, would make me uncomfortable), or just looked intimidating.

And... I don't want to be traipsing around London with a guitar at funny times of day, in unfamiliar and possibly dodgy areas.  It's supposed to be an enjoyable experience.  :?

On top of all that, my time is limited, I'd have trouble following a regular schedule and being ready for the next lesson.

Maybe one day....
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2012, 11:07:59 PM »
get private tuition!

yes it costs money, is it worth it? hell yes, I learned more from private tuition than I could ever teach myself, I improved 10x in just one year and came out of it being able to play things that I though was literally impossible for me to ever achieve. Obviously you need a good teacher though but if you can find one it is worth it's weight in gold and will stick with you for the rest of your life.

This is what I was going to suggest, but also state that I'm doubting Philly is as bad as he makes out  PDT_002

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2012, 01:09:57 AM »
You guys are so nice.... but I really am as bad as I make out.  :lol:

If I'm being totally honest with myself, I suspect I'm at a stage (and have been for a long time) where only a little hard work could lead to a significant improvement.  But until I get over that hurdle.... I really am that bad.  :|
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2012, 08:11:27 PM »
i think you make a good point regarding the lessons- if you aren't careful, they can turn it into work, rather than play/fun.

I've never had guitar lessons- though I wouldn't suggest having no lessons if you've never had any instruction in anything musical (I've had piano and drum lessons, so at least I have a fair idea if i'm on the right track or not)- and I practise guitar way more than I ever practised piano or drums. to be fair- I probably like guitar more. But even still, there is something to be said for that.

That being said, I still don't practise enough. And I probably would have picked some things up a bit quicker had I had lessons.

But it's definitely very important getting someone who teaches you the things you want and in the way you want to learn (within reason). Some teachers (and i say this as someone who is incredibly biased in favour of teachers, if anything- both my parents were (not music) teachers) are very, very annoying. They have a very particular way of learning and teaching, and if you're not willing to learn in that way, they'll go out of their way to prove your way wrong and make it difficult for you. Even though there are umpteen ways to learn things. A similar, related problem is the type of teacher who forces you to learn boring scales and the like, on the principle of "weeding out" those who aren't interested. That's BS of the highest order, if you ask me. If you make something artificially boring, you're going to weed out good students.

Of course, if you get a good teacher, it'll help your playing like nothing else. Just in case it looks like i'm warning you against getting lessons, because I'm really not.

I'm also sure you're nowhere near as bad as you say you are. :)

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2012, 08:48:01 PM »


-  I forgot to say,  ( having re- read your replies )  - that in addition to setting yourself a target date for completion of certain objectives / skills acquired ;  You will definately need to set yourself a start date .   :wink:
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2012, 10:44:06 PM »
-  I forgot to say,  ( having re- read your replies )  - that in addition to setting yourself a target date for completion of certain objectives / skills acquired ;  You will definately need to set yourself a start date .   :wink:

Comment of the day!  :lol:

I'll try to find a gap in my diary for that start date....
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2012, 12:35:01 AM »
-  I forgot to say,  ( having re- read your replies )  - that in addition to setting yourself a target date for completion of certain objectives / skills acquired ;  You will definately need to set yourself a start date .   :wink:

Comment of the day!  :lol:

I'll try to find a gap in my diary for that start date....

Will that be before or after the day you start putting together the parts under your bed?
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dave_mc

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2012, 12:47:03 AM »
:lol:

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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2012, 01:38:08 AM »
-  I forgot to say,  ( having re- read your replies )  - that in addition to setting yourself a target date for completion of certain objectives / skills acquired ;  You will definately need to set yourself a start date .   :wink:

Comment of the day!  :lol:

I'll try to find a gap in my diary for that start date....

Will that be before or after the day you start putting together the parts under your bed?

Hmmmm.... I've got a coin here..... heads or tails?
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2012, 01:50:20 AM »
Heads for the learning and tails for the building seems fitting to me.
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2012, 12:52:11 PM »

 A New Year's resolution perhaps ?   So far,  January 3rd - March 28th ( inclusive )  2014 ,  is looking pretty clear ; although I'd hate to hurry you on this one.

Please don't tell me that the Diary ( a free ' valued customer' gift from Warmouth ) -  is also under the bed.  :(


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The Album title 2112 was a concept,  not a viable start date .
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2012, 02:33:53 PM »
I don't do New Year Resolutions.... I know I'll never keep 'em.  :|
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Re: Suppose you were to start learning guitar again, from scratch.....
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2012, 02:36:05 PM »
Make a new years resolution Not to set a start date.
It wasn't a mistake, it was chromaticism, I swear.