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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2012, 01:09:45 PM »
I've wondered in the past if this is partly due to the ISF.

The basis of the ISF control is that the 'American' and 'British' tones are defined by a certain mid range character. If that's true, maybe you could say the midrange of any amp is a big part of its signature sound. That said, if you make the tone stack so flexible that it allows you alter that character, maybe by definition there is no solid 'Blackstar' tone, because the normal basis for defining such a thing has been made largely variable.

Might not be true. I'm just speculating.

That's a very good point actually.

When referring to Marshalls alot of people will talk about it's midrange focus etc, but with Blackstar you can't really do that because (as you said) it's completely variable.

A mate of mine has a small guitar shop and he's bordering on being obsessed with Blackstar; thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread. Myself and Tony popped in over the weekend and he forced a 2x10 HT5 Anniversary combo in our direction. He said that 'with it's improved EQ, bigger cab, more speakers etc it sounded alot better than the normal HT5 combos', and was really worth the £400 price tag. I plugged into it and was massively unimpressed (my feeling of all Blackstars I've used so far tbh) by it. He's actually said that when Blackstar release their new amps with the built in FX over the next year or so that they'll be the best amp on the market. He's a hell of a player, but I must admit to not sharing his choice in tones or amps  :lol:

I was alot more impressed with the tone of an Orange Micro Terror through a V30 loaded cab, and that was a 20w hybrid with only 1 preamp valve and a solidstate power amp.
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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2012, 01:20:59 PM »
I was impressed by the micro terror. Mainly because I thought it still had that 'Orange' tone to it. I was fully ready for it to sound awful!

I didn't know they had amps like that on the way. Thing is... once you have a hybrid preamp and valve or SS power amp, and you start adding built in effects and such... you really aren't that far away from having a modelling amp. Maybe it'll sound cool and it'll be cheaper than Axe FX + valve power amp.  I mean, you're basically describing a Line 6 Spider Valve.

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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2012, 10:37:36 PM »
I was impressed by the micro terror. Mainly because I thought it still had that 'Orange' tone to it. I was fully ready for it to sound awful!

I didn't know they had amps like that on the way. Thing is... once you have a hybrid preamp and valve or SS power amp, and you start adding built in effects and such... you really aren't that far away from having a modelling amp. Maybe it'll sound cool and it'll be cheaper than Axe FX + valve power amp.  I mean, you're basically describing a Line 6 Spider Valve.

It seems it is a modeller
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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2012, 02:20:48 PM »
About the Micro Terror: I love mine.
Run that baby through a 4*12 with a Tubescreamer in the front (which I do) and you won't believe how amazing and loud that 100€ thing is. If you have a guitar with high output pickups it even does metal with ease and it's pretty versatile. Not something you would expect from such a small and cheap lunchbox amp.
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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2012, 04:20:31 PM »
I've had a Blackstar Drive pedal for some time now, got it when they first came out. I could tell right away from the sound that it wasn't all valve despite it saying 'Pure Valve' on the pedal. After an exchange of e-mails Blackstar told me that they use s/s circuitry to pump the signal before it hits the valve. However, it is a very good pedal. I once rehearsed using a Slash Jubilee Marshall head and got a better sound using the Blackstar for leads than I could out of the amp's own lead channel. It mixed well with the amp's crunch sound which is where many o/d pedals fail.

     
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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2012, 07:00:14 PM »
This is a valve OD:



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To be fair it does have a board that sorts the power out and a buffer on the output also. But otherwise it's all valve :D
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Re: Low-cost all-valve heads + stomp combinations
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2012, 12:56:48 PM »
Can I just wade in here and strongly suggest that you take a look at the Wampler SLOstortion pedal. Could be an answer given its very good tone? No help on the amp front, so apologies for that, but take a look at this and see if its what you might need?

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