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Marco78

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BKP and wire
« on: January 11, 2013, 01:46:32 PM »
Hi guys, I have created on a excel page a list of single coil and hb product by Tim, but on the description page missing the description of wire used on some modern pickups.

What is type and measures of wire on this pickups: Trilogy, Sinner, Cold Sweath, Aftermath, Crawler, Nailbomb, Painkiller, Holydriver, Miracle man and warpig? On the other pickups is it signed...

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 03:42:09 PM »
What a conincidence - I did the same for the humbuckers and put in the specs whenever anybody posted it. Hope I can fill in some blanks for you.

Cold Sweat: bridge 43 AWG plain enamel, neck 42.5 polysol
Nailbomb: bridge 43 AWG plain enamel, neck probably the same
Holydiver: bridge 44 AWG plain enamel, neck 42.5 polysol
Miracle Man: both 44 AWG plain enamel
Warpig: bridge 44 AWG plain enamel, neck probably the same

I am missing the data for the Aftermath, Crawler and Painkiller, too.

To all the folks reading this: please correct me if anything is not accurate. Thanks.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 04:15:15 PM »
What a conincidence - I did the same for the humbuckers and put in the specs whenever anybody posted it. Hope I can fill in some blanks for you.

Cold Sweat: bridge 43 AWG plain enamel, neck 42.5 polysol
Nailbomb: bridge 43 AWG plain enamel, neck probably the same
Holydiver: bridge 44 AWG plain enamel, neck 42.5 polysol
Miracle Man: both 44 AWG plain enamel
Warpig: bridge 44 AWG plain enamel, neck probably the same

I am missing the data for the Aftermath, Crawler and Painkiller, too.

To all the folks reading this: please correct me if anything is not accurate. Thanks.

Cheers Stephan

42,5????????????

are you sure that metal pickups are plain enamel and not poly???? very strange...

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 05:23:15 PM »
Miracle Man is 45 gauge from what I recall, as is the Warpig
Crawler is 43 for bridge and maybe 42 for neck

42.5 is a metric gauge rather than imperial sizing
42 gauge has a diameter of 0.063mm and 42.5 has a diameter of 0.060mm (43 gauge is 0.056mm)
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 05:59:28 PM »
are you sure that metal pickups are plain enamel and not poly???? very strange...

definitely, and I think that might be a good part of the reason why they sound so good
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 08:24:51 PM »
Miracle Man is 45 gauge from what I recall, as is the Warpig
Crawler is 43 for bridge and maybe 42 for neck

Just checked my mailbox and I can confirm the neck is 42:

Quote from: Tim
Crawler bridge is wound with 43 AWG while Crawler neck is 42 AWG hence the different DC reading but good balance in output.

Have: Crawlers, BGF 50/52s, Mules, ABomb, RiffRaff
Had : Slowhands (n&m), Trilogy (b)

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 05:41:26 PM »
yeah, the miracle man is 45 awg and it's poly, not plain enamel
the warpig has the exact same wire
the neck miracle man sounds a lot like the alnico warpig, although the warpig is a lot more overwound

the painkiller is supposed to be 44 awg poly, and I believe the holy diver has the same wire type

the aftermath is 43 awg plain enamel, like the nailbomb, but with symmetrical coils (hence the full midrange instead of the c-bomb slight midscoop)
I suppose the triple magnet setup helps with the extra tightness (which makes me think if removing the side magnets would make it a more classic hard rock sounding pickup)
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 05:51:26 PM by Eric Hellstyle »
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 07:51:47 PM »
So:

Cold Sweath: Poly 42,5 / PE 43
   
Aftermath:   PE 43 / PE 43
   
Crawler: PE 42 / PE 43
   
Nailbomb: PE 43   / PE 43
   
Painkiller: Poly 44 / Poly 44
   
Holydriver: PE 43 / Poly 44
   
Miracle Man   : Poly 45 / Poly 45
   
Warpig: Poly 45   / Poly 45
   

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 02:27:03 AM »
neck diver is 42.5 poly
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 09:45:09 AM »
Miracle Man is 45 gauge from what I recall, as is the Warpig
Crawler is 43 for bridge and maybe 42 for neck

Just checked my mailbox and I can confirm the neck is 42:

Quote from: Tim
Crawler bridge is wound with 43 AWG while Crawler neck is 42 AWG hence the different DC reading but good balance in output.

Thank you very much, that's very interesting even though not surprising.

This makes me think that the Abraxas neck is probably also 42 AWG, even though the bridge is 43 AWG. Can anybody confirm this, please?

Thanks, Stephan

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 12:57:09 PM »
yeah, the abraxas neck is similar to the mule
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 06:35:27 PM »
yeah, the miracle man is 45 awg and it's poly, not plain enamel
the warpig has the exact same wire
the neck miracle man sounds a lot like the alnico warpig, although the warpig is a lot more overwound

the painkiller is supposed to be 44 awg poly, and I believe the holy diver has the same wire type

the aftermath is 43 awg plain enamel, like the nailbomb, but with symmetrical coils (hence the full midrange instead of the c-bomb slight midscoop)
I suppose the triple magnet setup helps with the extra tightness (which makes me think if removing the side magnets would make it a more classic hard rock sounding pickup)

So the triple magnet setup is horizontal rather than stacked?...I always wondered but never wanted to crack one open and have a look.

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 07:01:48 PM »
I think the Black Dog is the polysol wire as well and that makes it sound so "beefy".  :D
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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 06:29:46 AM »
Post deleted following conversation with Tim.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 12:06:41 PM by Slartibartfarst42 »
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Bridge - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; A-Bomb; Holydiver; Miracle Man; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

Neck - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; Holydiver; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

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Re: BKP and wire
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 02:55:50 PM »
Aren't the Black Dogs 42.5 poly?
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