Marshall tones - XTC?

[Ian Price]

That's the whole thing to me - music is all about art/feel/emotion/etc.  Otherwise it would be maths.

A guy I occasionally work with plays guitar. I got chatting to him and he said he played "mathcore". I'd never heard of that genre and imagined it would sound like sh!te. Got home, looked it up on YouTube. Yep, it sounded like sh!te.

Apologies to any mathcoreists on here. No offense intended.

Give me a Neil Young one note solo and I'll probably be happy. All about the feel and emotion for me.

[TheyCallMeVolume]

Exactly! I find that the guys who say more with one note than 100 notes has much more to say and contribute. Don't get me wrong, I like some shred (but not over the top), but nothing's better than a Gilmour solo. Could you see Gilmour playing an L6 Pod?

[itamar101]

That's the whole thing to me - music is all about art/feel/emotion/etc.  Otherwise it would be maths.

A guy I occasionally work with plays guitar. I got chatting to him and he said he played "mathcore". I'd never heard of that genre and imagined it would sound like sh!te. Got home, looked it up on YouTube. Yep, it sounded like sh!te.

Apologies to any mathcoreists on here. No offense intended.

Give me a Neil Young one note solo and I'll probably be happy. All about the feel and emotion for me.

Well, according to some fans and even... Wikipedia... Tool are considered math rock/art rock and they're flipping brilliant. Haven't heard much else of that genre though an definitely no "mathCORRRREEEWWE". God, I hate that word... What does it add to the definition of a genre?

"Me and my budyz playz hevvy metalcorz wiv jazz fusion corzzed influences from Somalia..."

[Ian Price]

And that's the problem with all of these (often stupidly named) genres. Trying to pigeon hole a band into a genre or, shudder, a cross genre is quite frankly ridiculous.

My categorisation is very simple. Good music or Bad music.

[Philly Q]

Lots of focus in our house on clearing some debt down this year.

Lots of focus in mine on clearing some space!  :lol:

(Just been trying to sort my Blu-ray collection into some sort of order this afternoon.... what a bore that was.  But it least it's something useful, and I've found a few I can sell.)

Could you see Gilmour playing an L6 Pod?

Probably not, but he did use EMG pickups for many years!

I agree that music is all about feel and emotion, but that doesn't necessarily mean "one note says more than 1,000" (although it very often does....).  And I don't think it matters whether the equipment is analog or digital, vintage or modern.  It's what you feel comfortable with, and what you do with it that matters.

[PPPMAT]

Another quick update - The Satch sounds pretty good! First Marshall I have owned in years, sounds great quiet and at rehearsal levels. One thing I'm not used to is the EQ, I remember my Marshalls of old having an EQ that did basically nothing no matter where you set it - not the case here, it alters the sound quite a bit so will take some dialling in.

Lots of thump and punch and a ton of gain if you want it - very useful channel switching for a covers band (like ours) too. Better than expected so far...

[TheyCallMeVolume]

Awesome! Glad you like it. I really haven't heard anything but good things about the Satch JVM. How are the gates?

[PPPMAT]

The gates I have to say work really well and you need them for the mega overdrive channels - very clever and let you have all the controlled harmonic feedback you want and none of the stuff you don't.

Its simple to operate but there are so many different ways to dial it in its a bit overwhelming but all in a good way. Its voiced very well I think and screams and crunches up nicely. The AFD red crunch mode is notably good.

[Dazza1004]

I'm sure if you're recording a modeller or pedal could do the trick sound-wise, but 'feel' is very important to some folks (myself included).

1,000,000% this. I realise now a lot of the tone chasing I have done has actually been feel chasing, hence why I love the Bogners so much.

Glad you like the satch  :D

[Telerocker]

In the ballpark of the XTC is also the Hook Captain 34.
It has three channels, all very good. The vibe is def. plexi. Not really a metalamp, although with a boost you can get there. Sounds more vintage then the XTC, I think.

Lots of video's (also Guthrie Govan) here:

http://www.hookamps.com/captain34.php

[annejasse]

I personally like Bogner XTC,  I though it sounded great.

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[Andrew W]

I personally like Bogner XTC,  I though it sounded great.

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Turing test fail have you done.

Back on topic, very happy you like the Satch JVM. My only low(ish) volume Marshall tone experience was a Cornell Plexi 7 I used to own. Great amp but is not gig-able unless you want to mic it.