Does the C-Pig cut it?

[GuitarIv]

Hey fellas

going to be deciding between the Aftermath and the C-Pig as new bridge pickup for my Jackson Fusion.

Now I've been attracted to the AM for it's unforgiving nature (good to improve skills), the absolute clearness and the huge mids that make it "cut" as most people say. But at the same time I played a mates axe with Warpigs (Alnico Bridge) and absolutely loved the sound. Huge output with lots of power and punch, yet clear. I want the ceramic bridge for a tighter sound and a nice death metal tone, however I'd like to know how much cut does the C-Pig have?

Don't get me wrong, but I like to be heard live, so that's an important thing for me. I should also mention that I'm tuned to E-Flat, so the "low tuning bonus" the AM has isn't important to me.

I'd also like to know how much more the Pig covers up flaws compared to the AM.

Let em opinions come!

Cheers

[GuitarIv]

No one?

[JimmyMoorby]

No one?

Shame as id be interested to know!

[Sarkasis]

When I had my C-pig in, I never found it to be really dark sounding in that way. It's bright "enough" on the top. It sounds dense and kind of pushed rather than open like the Aftermath, so the detail won't seem the same but it is there.

I was coaxing some fluid feeling passages out of it with slides, so it's not as start/stoppy as the Aftermath, so it is more forgiving like that.

[ericsabbath]

the aftermath is pretty dense in my experience
very in-your-face souding, but not open in the mids

[GuitarIv]

Thanks for the input so far fellas :)

[Dr.Pain]

I found the C-Pig had too much bass for my liking.  But that was in a neck through, mahogany bodied 7 string.  I loved the output though.

[witeter]

i think that if i was just jamming at home i would adore the cpig-huge chunk and high output; but i sense that in a band context i would have to radically eq it to cut and sit right-thats why i havent pulled the trigger on one. You shd look into the blackhawk i reckon also, its eq curve looks really cool and ideal for band situations imo (im still tempted...:)

[Dr.Pain]

The C-Pig needs a mid range boost.  I found on my 7 string that the bass was over the top on the bottom string, tuned to B (440 scale), but anything on the top 6 sounded great.  Power chords were epic! 

I'd email the guys at BKP and let them know and see what they come up with.  Let them know what woods the guitar is and they will be a massive help.

[GuitarIv]

Witeter: that was exactly what I was thinking, it may sound a bit decadent, but I guess I will get both, the Pig should be a joy to jam at home whilst the Aftermath should provide the cut for live situations :P

@Dr. Pain: I did my research already and have settled down on one of these two, no need to send an E-Mail :)

I will report back as soon as I make up my mind and get the new pickup

[ericsabbath]

the alnico pig cuts deep with a tube screamer type od
I don't see why the the c-pig wouldn't
I honestly find that sort of labeling quite bullshiteety
"oh the aftermath is good for 2 guitars bands and the miracle man isn't that good"
it all depends on EVERYTHING (guitars, pedals, amps, amp settings, tubes, cabs/speakers, style, actual playing, how the songs are put together)
I've never heard any BKP that doesn't cut well in a proper guitar and amp

[darkbluemurder]

I honestly find that sort of labeling quite bullshiteeeety
"oh the aftermath is good for 2 guitars bands and the miracle man isn't that good"
it all depends on EVERYTHING (guitars, pedals, amps, amp settings, tubes, cabs/speakers, style, actual playing, how the songs are put together)

I fully agree. It also depends very much on the band you play in. Three other musicians around you can make such a noise that you cannot cut through with anything. I played in a band once where the only guitar I could cut through with was a super bright Telecaster with a Joe Barden bridge pickup - ouch. That was bright enough to sterilise all small animals within 100 feet. In the last band I played I could be heard regardless of which guitar I used.

Cheers Stephan

[Toe-Knee]

Don't get me wrong, but I like to be heard live, so that's an important thing for me. I should also mention that I'm tuned to E-Flat, so the "low tuning bonus" the AM has isn't important to me.

Cheers

I found that the AM sounded best in Eb. I couldn't stand it in lower tunings at all it sounded too weak imho.

[EffigyForgotten]

Don't get me wrong, but I like to be heard live, so that's an important thing for me. I should also mention that I'm tuned to E-Flat, so the "low tuning bonus" the AM has isn't important to me.

Cheers

I found that the AM sounded best in Eb. I couldn't stand it in lower tunings at all it sounded too weak imho.

Really? Periphery's last record was recorded with Aftermath equipped guitars for all rhythm if i'm not mistaken, they play on Drop G# on 7 strings and had some stuff on a standard tuned 8 string, probably with aftermaths as well.

[witeter]

Yes i think everything is relative to everything else; BUT if a pickup is designed to accentuate low frequencies for example then some eqing will probably be needed when in a band situation- not always, but most probably. At the end of the day the guitar lives in the mid frequency range. This of course is only my opinion.