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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2013, 10:53:49 PM »
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2013, 03:53:03 AM »
Per Nilsson is amazing!!! He deserves more recognition but generally speaking and as stated by others these kind of polls are based off social proof than any measure of talent or ability, nor can I ever see that changing

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 01:05:13 AM »
I've never understood the reverence of Randy Rhoads. Best thing he ever did was design a cool guitar.
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 10:23:32 AM »
I've never understood the reverence of Randy Rhoads. Best thing he ever did was design a cool guitar.

i've never really gotten that either.  he was a good player, but i don't hear anything really special.  and i personally think his guitar sound was awful.  It's perhaps a story of wasted potential, he might have been something special but for his tragic, and very stupid, end. 
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 01:16:40 PM »
As far as unsung goes, you rarely hear people talking about James Dean Bradfield from MSP - thats guy is a really tasty player.

I don't get the Hammett bashing either, go back and listen to the first four albums - he has a style, you know its him when he plays.  He does have a bit of a shakey vibrato though and his tone could be better.  Still legendary.


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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2013, 01:52:24 PM »
I've never understood the reverence of Randy Rhoads. Best thing he ever did was design a cool guitar.

i've never really gotten that either.  he was a good player, but i don't hear anything really special.  and i personally think his guitar sound was awful.  It's perhaps a story of wasted potential, he might have been something special but for his tragic, and very stupid, end.

I think he was different, but not different enough to warrant all the accolades that came after his death. His studio tone was absolutely terrible, but his live sound was much better IMO. But yes, I do think he's a bit overrated. Aren't basically all the musicians who passed early guilty of that as well though?

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 03:52:06 PM »
often that's true, there are musicians who would have been pretty much forgotten if they hadn't died young.  I'm amazed at the instant reverence for Amy Winehouse!  and let's be honest, Jim Morrison was a dick.  But then there's Hendrix :)  i'm sure there are some who would call him overrated, but not too many.

i do wonder if Janis Joplin and Nick Drake would have gotten the respect they have if they'd lived.  i think they're both fantastic, by the way
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2013, 03:59:51 PM »
I don't get the adulation for Morrison. He's not a great singer, and he always seems absolutely smashed in every video I see of them.

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2013, 08:35:48 PM »
The first two Doors albums are great. They kind of invented the whole dark lyric downer band thing. There was nobody like them around at that time of peace and love. Then the guy died young. Talented or not, he made more of a mark than a lot of 'stars'.

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2013, 11:01:09 PM »
The first two Doors albums are great. They kind of invented the whole dark lyric downer band thing. There was nobody like them around at that time of peace and love. Then the guy died young. Talented or not, he made more of a mark than a lot of 'stars'.

(and he had a great band behind him)

They made (some) great songs.
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2013, 12:17:25 AM »
There are some great songs and I like the general sound/vibe on Doors recordings.  But I must be honest, I've always struggled to enjoy most of their music.

On the "musicians remembered because they died young" theme, does anyone think Kurt Cobain was overrated?  I certainly don't, I think Nirvana were absolutely phenomenal - despite the fact they killed the hair metal bands I liked at the time!  :lol:  I do suspect they'd peaked, though - not at all sure Kurt would still be doing anything interesting now.
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2013, 12:27:47 AM »
There are some great songs and I like the general sound/vibe on Doors recordings.  But I must be honest, I've always struggled to enjoy most of their music.

On the "musicians remembered because they died young" theme, does anyone think Kurt Cobain was overrated?  I certainly don't, I think Nirvana were absolutely phenomenal - despite the fact they killed the hair metal bands I liked at the time!  :lol:  I do suspect they'd peaked, though - not at all sure Kurt would still be doing anything interesting now.

Of course, they peaked at Nevermind. Hard to not peak with an album like that, do you see them ever coming out with an album ever better than that?

As far as Cobain, I think he definitely had a unique style, and a unique voice. I don't get people calling his voice "heavenly" or "beautiful", as I find it's more like nails on a chalkboard, in a somewhat good way though. He certainly falls under the category you just named though.

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2013, 09:28:52 AM »
We used to play some Doors stuff in the blues band I played years ago (which they probably covered from the old blues guys - such as Roadhouse).

As regards Nirvana I could never relate to them.

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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2013, 01:21:23 PM »
i actually quite like the Doors myself, just have never understood the Cult Of Jim.  I think Cobain was actually improving.  Nevermind is great, but I think In Utero is actually far superior. 
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Re: Unsung or overhyped?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2013, 01:41:03 PM »
I've never understood the reverence of Randy Rhoads. Best thing he ever did was design a cool guitar.

i've never really gotten that either.  he was a good player, but i don't hear anything really special.  and i personally think his guitar sound was awful.  It's perhaps a story of wasted potential, he might have been something special but for his tragic, and very stupid, end.

how could you say this and then praise nirvana? he was better than a 'good player' sorry but I can't agree with what you are saying, without him ozzy osbourne wouldn't be the rich and famous man that he is today
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