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NPD
« on: March 17, 2013, 01:42:29 PM »
Just bagged me one of these new Boogie Throttle Box pedals. Holy Moly.............it's good.
Basically it's a TripleRec in a pedal (except it's £2,000 cheaper.)
Here she is on the board (3rd from the left)

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Re: NPD
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 04:21:22 PM »
Got any sound clips of that Boogie pedal?

Also, what is the brown pedal on the right?

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Re: NPD
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 04:25:30 PM »
That's a Lazy J cruiser, a pedal Ive been meaning to buy for about 2 years now.. There's a "deuce" version which has spearated the Drive and boost portions into 2 switches. It's supposed to be a pretty original design by OD standards in a time where everything seems to be a tweaked version of everything else

http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/Lazy_J_CRUISER.html

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Re: NPD
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 07:58:22 PM »
The Throttle Box is on my 'must audition' list. Glad you like it!!

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Re: NPD
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 10:11:20 PM »
That's a Lazy J cruiser, a pedal Ive been meaning to buy for about 2 years now.. There's a "deuce" version which has spearated the Drive and boost portions into 2 switches. It's supposed to be a pretty original design by OD standards in a time where everything seems to be a tweaked version of everything else

With this amount of goop, I'd expect otherwise...

http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16434

You'll probably need a sign-on to FSB to see that. Goop is usually a sign of something to hide...

FWIW, pretty much everything is a tweaked version of something else when it comes to analogue pedals. It's very, very rare to find something truly original that's not digital.
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Re: NPD
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 10:25:06 PM »
Yeah, need a login but i think i have one kicking about somewhere, I will however take your word for it. What about the implementation? the control system is being touted as something different, would love to think in this case goop = hiding something original, but you're right.. especially the last few years, klons, freekish blues, the Jan ray was a prime example.

Having said that.. Jesse is a stand up guy, is amps are extremely well built and not massively expensive for the effort put into them, there's never been any snake oil in any emails he's sent me, and the customer service he provides is incredible, he basically doesn't care whether you've bought his stuff new or not. So.. at the very real risk of ending up making a fool of myself, I'm going to back it as being him trying to protect something original.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 10:42:01 PM by tekbow »

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Re: NPD
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 10:34:01 PM »
There's someone de-gooping one but he hasn't yet. It'll be interesting to see what it is. The dual gang pot might point to something klonish...

The only two that come to mind of late that were original were the Klon and Tim/Timmy. Most Klon circuits out there are direct rips with usually one cap that changes based on either the original schematic or if they've back-to-backed it with a real one and tweaked it. There's no black art to it so most are much of a muchness. You can buy yourself a brass (yeah, great conductor that) Timmy at twice the price at the moment that's been tweaked to sound a little different...

Generally if it's expensive and wrapped up in flowery marketing bollocks, it's likely a rip off of something else ;) FSB is a very useful resource when it comes to sifting through the bull.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 10:36:00 PM by juansolo »
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Re: NPD
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 10:47:31 PM »
these pics?

http://www.j-guitar.com/product_id192943.html

Yep FSB usually likes to make TGPers look a touch silly when it comes to the latest holy grail.. I thought the Klon was tubescreamer based though?

The brass Timmy being the Jan Ray? I like to keep an eye on TGP.. it provides lots of entertainment ;)

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Re: NPD
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 11:01:20 PM »
Yeah the Jan Ray is a fairly blatant rip of a Timmy.

The main thing that differentiates the Klon from most things out there (that aren't also a Klon) is that it's essentially a clean boost and distortion. The gain pot is a dual gang that blends between the two.

But yeah, the number of boutique ODs out there that are Tube Screamers at heart is huge.

TGP can be a bit spikey at times so I tend not to post there. It and DIYSB are essential DIY stompbox resources though. Friendlier is the Madbean forum. The epic Klon thread on there is particularly excellent.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 11:03:20 PM by juansolo »
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Re: NPD
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 11:06:09 PM »
With all the spaghetti in that pedal, it's got to be good! =p

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Re: NPD
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 11:26:08 PM »
Yeah, pretty on the inside it ain't!
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Re: NPD
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 11:35:48 PM »
mmm.. seen worse, i was initially wondering why he fixed components to both sides of the pedal, but i guess he didn't want to board mount the pots but still keep the pedal compact which is fair enough. there is a fair amount of stuff squeezed in there

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Re: NPD
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 09:21:00 AM »
More likely he's just hiding the traces on the back.
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Re: NPD
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 10:28:24 AM »
I once degooped a bootik drive pedal to find it was a TS Clone and the hidden ingredients were a Burr Brown OPA2134PA op amp.  Hardly worth the cost of the goop if you ask me.
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Re: NPD
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 10:48:43 AM »
Generally if it's expensive and wrapped up in flowery marketing bollocks, it's likely a rip off of something else ;) FSB is a very useful resource when it comes to sifting through the bull.

yeah that's what i said over at tgp about the jan ray before it was reversed and was accused of paranoia (and a whole bunch of other things). :lol: