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Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« on: June 28, 2013, 05:17:46 PM »
Hi everyone; I was gonna get a Gibson SG Junior, but I ended up getting a used standard; needless to say, I'm very happy about making that choice. The thing is, that middle output pickups has never been my thing as I play extreme metal almost exclusively. I've heard great things about both NB and MM for this style of music. What do you guys think is better suited for old school/gothenburg swedish death metal? (Entombed, At the Gates, Dissection, Dark Tranquillity, Bloodbath, etc.) Some people say the MM sound almost the same as the EMG 81/85 set, I already have these on other guitar, so I would like a slightly different type of sound. Have anyone here that plays the same style tried both sets? I'm looking for a lot of note definition and something that will handle tight fast picking attack with pinch harmonics all over the place, clarity in low tunings is a must. Cheers guys!  PDT_019

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 05:23:32 PM »
My guess would be Nailbomb. I have heard it mentioned before when it comes to the likes of In Flames (newer and older stuff) and also other melodic and gothemburg metal types.
Should definetly have the agression you need for At the Gates and Dark Tranquillity.
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 05:48:05 PM »
I have a Nailbomb in an SG Standard.  It is the alnico version.

I guess it depends on what your style.  You may want to consider the ceramic magnet, or else the MM set.  The alnico Nailbomb to my ears in the SG has quite a punkish edge to it.  This may or may not be what you are looking for (melodic death metal sounds a long way from punk to me).  For example I can imagine Shane Embury picking up my SG and thinking that it would be great for Venomous Concept.  It has a bit of a chainsaw quality to it, and I certainly wouldn't call it smooth.  I tend to think of melodic death metal as heavy but smooth compared to grindcore, crust punk, etc.  Others might have a different viewpoint on this.

You might even want to consider the Cold Sweat set, as it works well in SGs (I have the neck pickup in mine) and will give a more 'scooped' sound if that's what you want (same with the C-Bomb and MM).  You should find the neck pickup in that set very good for leads.
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 06:25:38 PM »
It has a bit of a chainsaw quality to it, and I certainly wouldn't call it smooth.

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 08:59:52 PM »
Thanks for the answers guys! I'm intrigued by the a-bombs, is that "chainsaw" sound like the old swedish death metal guitar tone? Here's an example of what I'm talking about: http://youtu.be/L0ZCAarIVSI
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 09:09:15 PM »
Since that is rather bright in a way it reminds me of Rebell Yells (underwound brighter nailbombs) and Painkillers too.

So after throwing those names in the ring too I canīt offer any further help I am afraid.
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 09:46:01 PM »
Thanks Kiichi; well, I've been watching some clips of the MM, and it sounds closer to the sound I'm looking for. I would like to hear the ceramic Nailbombs though, before making a final decision  :mrgreen:.

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 01:22:22 AM »
The OP on this thread has a MM set. He also might be willing to change them...hint..hint.  :lol:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30175.0
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2013, 01:51:52 AM »
Thanks for the answers guys! I'm intrigued by the a-bombs, is that "chainsaw" sound like the old swedish death metal guitar tone? Here's an example of what I'm talking about: http://youtu.be/L0ZCAarIVSI

That 'Sunlight sound' came largely from the amp.

If you want that sound any half decent humbucker guitar will do it as the distortion level is so high.  Actually too high an output on the pickup might even mix things up.

What you basically need to do is play like a pretty good 16 year old through a 65W Peavey Bandit with everything dimed on the Bandit and an old Boss HM-2 pedal dimed out.

Look anywhere on the web and you'll find out that's how Entombed got that sound on Left Hand Path.  Makes sense.  The rest of it would be how it was recorded and mixed in the studio
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2013, 01:54:33 AM »
It has a bit of a chainsaw quality to it, and I certainly wouldn't call it smooth.

Award for the Best Possible Short Description Of The SG / Abomb Combo : and the the winner is... (drum roll) :  Agent Orange ! :mrgreen:

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BKP can put that on the website if they like.  I think though that it probably sounds more like that in an SG than in other guitars
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2013, 04:09:07 AM »
Thanks for the answers guys! I'm intrigued by the a-bombs, is that "chainsaw" sound like the old swedish death metal guitar tone? Here's an example of what I'm talking about: http://youtu.be/L0ZCAarIVSI

That 'Sunlight sound' came largely from the amp.

If you want that sound any half decent humbucker guitar will do it as the distortion level is so high.  Actually too high an output on the pickup might even mix things up.

What you basically need to do is play like a pretty good 16 year old through a 65W Peavey Bandit with everything dimed on the Bandit and an old Boss HM-2 pedal dimed out.

Look anywhere on the web and you'll find out that's how Entombed got that sound on Left Hand Path.  Makes sense.  The rest of it would be how it was recorded and mixed in the studio
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I put that example because the guys were talking about a "chainsaw"  sound. I'm looking for a better tone,but still very heavy. Like Bloodbath:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfoMgllphs

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2013, 05:00:49 AM »
I get my chainsaw from my HM-2 into a 30 watt Marshall.  No distortion on the pedal but the rest set max and let the amp do the distortion.  The guitars I use have an EMG 81 or SD Blackout in my 7 string.  I don't have to run much gain on the amp as the actives push pretty hard on max volume.  I haven't tried it on any BKP but I am getting an a-bomb for my strat so I might at some point block the trem and go heavy strings out of curiosity.

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2013, 06:17:27 PM »
The OP on this thread has a MM set. He also might be willing to change them...hint..hint.  :lol:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30175.0
Thanks man! I'll keep on eye on it hehehe :D

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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2013, 08:52:01 PM »
The OP on this thread has a MM set. He also might be willing to change them...hint..hint.  :lol:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30175.0
Thanks man! I'll keep on eye on it hehehe :D

Worth a look though  :)
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Re: Nailbombs of Miracle Man for death metal??
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2013, 09:16:18 PM »
100% Miracle Man on those bands. Had the Miracle Man in my SG first. Don't go with the Nailbomb, it's a great pickup but different (I have the Alnico one). The Nailbomb is more something that I would use for later Sepultura, although in my book it is the Dream Theater pickup - very thick in the midrange.
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