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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2013, 05:53:12 PM »
not much help i can give, unfortunately, i've only tried the 50 watt jca and the jvm410 (and the jvm i tried was ages ago, can't remember too much about it).

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2013, 01:26:00 AM »
What I experienced with the Jet City is a thick, warm and chunky overdrive with a saturation that reminds me of the sound of the Holydiver (if I had to compare the amp to a pickup).

I don't know about the 22H, but on my 20H, I find I have to keep the Master volume below 7, because anything higher than that and it thickens and basses right up very very quickly, and it's harder to control with the Bad Monkey treble knob. The 50w would give you more volume to play with before you get to that point, assuming the Master on that does the same as on the 20H.

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2013, 07:34:10 PM »
Between the 5150 and the JVM, I'd have to say the JVH too because it's far more versatile.  Of course if you never, ever turn the gain off or down then maybe the 5150.  I find the 5150 tones to be generally pretty harsh sounding though, and I do agree they're a tweaking nightmare.

I'm really not familiar with Jet City amplification so I can't say much here but I will say if the biggest drawback is that it requires a boost to get higher gain, don't let that be a detractor.  There's plenty of boost options out there today, so pick up a few and find which one you want (or swap them out for different sounds). 

The JCA50H has 6L6's which means it should have more low end and remain more defined at higher volumes but it won't get the same sounds when cranked as EL84s either.  For that reason, 6L6's are generally preferred by many metal players looking for very heavy tones, but they don't get the same tube saturation either.  If you liked the JCA22H as it sounds like you did, my advice would be to just get that amp.  I've thrown boosts into amps far cleaner than that to get the kind of distortion I was after, so I'm fairly confident you'll be fine.

I'm not a fan of modern day Marshalls at all -- too fizzy sounding.  Generally, Marshalls since the JCM 800 vertical inputs don't do it for me anymore with few exceptions, so if you didn't like the JVM I understand.  Also, most of them aren't really voiced for extreme metal out of the box.  The newer ones try to do everything but don't do any one thing really good at all.  Do remember that most of the Marshalls in metal are JCM800s, and 95% of those have been heavily modified as well to get the sounds that they do.
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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2013, 10:07:10 PM »
I'm very thankfull for all the input you guys have given me so far, now in end G.A.S. has once again gotten the better part of me. I just placed an order at Thomann yesterday and transferred the money today, it's going to be the JCA50H in the end. For 300 bucks this is just a steal and after reading through a lot of internet forums about the amp it seems like those are very user friendly when it comes down to mods and things that can be done to the circuit. I read DMoneys thread with the JCA22H as well and that pretty much convinced me. This might be the right amp for me to finally get into modding (besides doing solder jobs on my guitars) and I'm very stoked and looking forward for the package to arrive. Gonna keep you updated and report back as soon as it arrives and I have put it through it's paces :)

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2013, 10:41:01 PM »
Oh very nice. I assume you got the head and not the combo?
Anyway I am really looking forward to hearing more on this one. I am very tempted to get the 50 combo sometime in the future.
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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2013, 05:40:09 PM »
^ ^ Nice :D

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2013, 01:41:18 AM »
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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2013, 01:48:46 PM »
Grrr, I hate my bank. I transferred the money on Monday and it still hasn't reached the Thomann Account, seems like I'll have to wait till next week until the Amp arrives. Anyway, I'll keep you guys updated and post a review as soon as the Head arrives (yup Kiichi, I ordered the head)  :D

Anyway, right now I still have the problem that my Laney Cab with the Celestion Seventy 80's probably still won't suit my tastes, so I'm still thinking about a matching cab. As much as I'd like to order either a custom Zilla Superfatboy or an Orange PPC212 I'm looking for a budget solution, so I thought about this Palmer 2*12 with Vintage 30s:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/palmer_pcab212v30.htm

Read and heard only good things about the brand and heard it live (loaded with Eminence V128s, Toe-Knee praised these as better sounding V30s) so I guess the cab will do. Still better than the Harley Benton I guess :P

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2013, 02:00:42 PM »
Grrr, I hate my bank. I transferred the money on Monday and it still hasn't reached the Thomann Account, seems like I'll have to wait till next week until the Amp arrives. Anyway, I'll keep you guys updated and post a review as soon as the Head arrives (yup Kiichi, I ordered the head)  :D


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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2013, 02:08:48 PM »
If you like the sound of open back cabs the Orange PPC412-OB seems okay in price.  I'm guessing sound would be less directional and maybe less punchy.

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2013, 02:51:07 PM »
I'm certainly going for a closed back option, I like the feeling of pressure and pumping air whilst palm muting  :D

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »
Grrr, I hate my bank. I transferred the money on Monday and it still hasn't reached the Thomann Account, seems like I'll have to wait till next week until the Amp arrives. Anyway, I'll keep you guys updated and post a review as soon as the Head arrives (yup Kiichi, I ordered the head)  :D

Anyway, right now I still have the problem that my Laney Cab with the Celestion Seventy 80's probably still won't suit my tastes, so I'm still thinking about a matching cab. As much as I'd like to order either a custom Zilla Superfatboy or an Orange PPC212 I'm looking for a budget solution, so I thought about this Palmer 2*12 with Vintage 30s:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/palmer_pcab212v30.htm

Read and heard only good things about the brand and heard it live (loaded with Eminence V128s, Toe-Knee praised these as better sounding V30s) so I guess the cab will do. Still better than the Harley Benton I guess :P

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2013, 05:01:38 PM »
those palmers aren't plywood (when they came out I emailed to ask). Whether that means they sound bad, I dunno, I haven't tried them, but yeah. The harley benton g212vintage is plywood and has v30s, for less money.

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2013, 05:23:31 PM »
I'm not up on different speaker types, but I tried a shed-load of 4x12 and 2x12 cabs including Orange, Marshall, Mesa, Engl etc, but I actually found that the cab Jet City recommends for their heads got me the best sound. I reckon they're on to something...
http://www.thomann.de/gb/jet_city_amplification_24s.htm

This is what I have, my JCA20H sounds amazing through it.

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Re: Jet City JCA50H vs. Marshall JVM 205 vs. EVH 5150 III 50 Watt
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2013, 06:35:00 AM »
I'll find out first what I feel is lacking with the Seventy 80's and decide then if I'll go for Vintage 30's or an other kind of speaker/cab :)